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welcome

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paid to black bespoke radio

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for the masses

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today's thursday may 27 2021.

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148 days into the new year

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only 217 days left

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we are live from a bunker somewhere in

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the middle of

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but it is beautiful that's right

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yeah we're good

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would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world all

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across the united states

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hither and tether to and fro back and

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forth up and down

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east and west north and south far and

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near

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this is fade to black for kjcr the game

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changer network and kg r

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a the planets our mules jimmy church

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what is cracking everybody

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how you doing yeah it is

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thursday it is it is thursday

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it is fader night but tonight we have

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ray santilli joining us for the first

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hour

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that's right live from london united

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kingdom

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and then i'm opening up the phone lines

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it's going to be fader night all night

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long looking forward to that

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haven't had a fader night in a while and

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you know what's really funny we almost

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didn't have one again tonight

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you know i it was one of those things

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i'm debating on

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on how to do this but then i thought you

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know ray is coming in from london it's

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very early in the morning over there and

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so let's just uh let's do the right

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thing and uh

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we'll just do do an hour and make sure

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that we have

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fader night tonight for everybody i

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missed it but you know last night

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uh we were able to extend the phones

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there for

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for a minute um after sean stone

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night kind of made up for the last two

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or three weeks

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here on the show not being able to do

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fader night but uh that's what we're

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doing tonight ray santilli

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um wow what uh uh

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an amazing shocking surprising

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announcement

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uh earlier this week that's right that a

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frame a frame from the original

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alien autopsy film the one that he

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bought in florida and took we'll be

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talking to ray about this tonight

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gets it back over to the uk uh loads it

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up on a projector

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hits hits go and it disintegrates

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and what is left was a few frames and he

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well he's auctioning one of these off um

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as an nft with the with the real frame

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and the um digitized

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file that goes into the blockchain and

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and uh so it's very interesting

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absolutely so we'll be talking about

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all of that tonight with rey's antilles

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i've never had ray on the show

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i spoke to him earlier today it's it's a

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to be able to have ray santilli on the

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uh at the bottom of the hour and then

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ray's gonna be with us uh for two

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and then boom opening up the phones

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okay uh i i can't even believe i'm

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announcing this

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today's the 27th june 6th

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is like next week

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unbelievable i will be at the ufo

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megacon

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in laughlin nevada next weekend

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not this weekend don't go yet but

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next weekend somebody pinch me it's

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really happening a live

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in person conference the ufo megacon

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and i need you to go over to

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jimmychurchradio.com it's

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laughlinufomegacon.com that's the

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website

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go and get your tickets get your rooms

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get it booked

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get it done now and uh june 6th through

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the 12th i'll see

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everybody there it's gonna be amazing

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i'm hosting two panels

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and i'm gonna be doing some sky watching

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i might be doing some hosting throughout

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the week i will be there

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all week we have a booth and uh of

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uh there's a casino there's restaurants

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there's food and there is

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friends i cannot wait for it i need this

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i need this so bad

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so i'll see everybody there follow me on

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twitter

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at j church radio at j church radio the

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sandbox is hashtag f2b right there

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and any questions uh or comments

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on the show tonight f2bq

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um what i was going to make there was

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another announcement i was going to make

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i just went over christina gomez now she

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could only hang out for like

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five or ten minutes and that's one of

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all right let's see let's just get to

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the breaking news got a lot to do

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tonight ray santilli with us

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at the bottom of the hour breaking news

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yesterday

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the water level in lake mead

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the largest u.s reservoir

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that's insane a new poll now i want

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everybody to just sit and listen to this

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a new poll suggests that 15 percent of

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the poll found that 15 of american

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government media and financial worlds in

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the united states are controlled by a

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leave it right there let's get this show

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happy birthday to today andre

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3000 andre 3000 is 46 years old

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susie and the banshees susie sue

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finn of crowded house is 63.

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uh i started you know i went and watched

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a couple of videos today i had to go

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watch don't dream it's over

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which which songs of theirs are my

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i just like them all love crowded house

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our dead guy's birthday today is

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you know this one's coming christopher

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christopher played count dooku in star

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in the hammer horror films and yes of

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he was the perfect saruman there's no

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westminster hospital on june 7 2015

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respiratory problems and heart failure

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birthday

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the german death toll was more than 2

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and it's here for the sunday in history

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i could do all kinds of things

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you know that happened today but

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growing up in chicago fraser smith

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family classic fraser thomas crazier tom

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frazier smith who's fraser smith fraser

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sunday nights and they play that

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a year

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family classics in chicago

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there you go fader fact oh i don't have

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a fader fact today

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i don't i don't have a fader fact i

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don't have a fader fact

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fader fact fader fact

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i need a fader i i need a what what i

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need a fader fact right now

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fader fact my favorite scented candle

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is cucumber god this thing is just

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all right there's your fader fact i got

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it man that smells

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actually cucumber all right tonight ray

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santilli is joining us for the first

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who would have thunk that's tonight on

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the show and then we're opening up the

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phone lines because it's thursday

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and it is fader night look at susie

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susie in the band she's got a man i love

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that man

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love that band all right

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that's a fader fact eric let me look at

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that's uh what

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hey is that your house dude i'm

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never going over to your house if that's

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your house

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that's cool but i'm not going no i'm

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going to stay outside on the front porch

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chuckle says he's got a fainter fact j

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church is the host

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with the most enough said thank you man

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that's cool all right

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rivermoonwellness.com river moon coffee

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and uh man i talked to ronnie mcmullen

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today

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uh for for a while and uh

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wow life change tea that's all i got to

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say life change tea ronnie mcmullen's

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the best

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and i think we're gonna have mine uh

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next week he called

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he's like jimmy i got an idea let's do a

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full show together

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let's just talk ufos i'm like

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i'm down i'll do that with ronnie

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so we're gonna do that real soon i'm uh

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looking forward to that

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all right river moon wellness fade to

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black blend and uh there you go all

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right now yeah i need i need a shot of

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all right

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i am going to read the first

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section of the black vaults article that

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the title the headline on the article

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pentagon destroyed emails of former

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intelligence official

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tied to ufo investigation claims

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by john greenwald may 27 2012

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i did let john know i was going to do

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this and kind of got his permission i

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actually told him i was going to steal

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it and act like it's my own

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i would never do that i think about it

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but

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i read this article today spoke with

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and this is disturbing and i post it

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up on twitter and i think i bounce

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excuse me bounced it over to facebook

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there we we've got a problem here with

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the dod

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all right all right so i want you to

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listen to everything

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listen closely since october of 2017

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intrigue and mystery has surrounded

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louis elizondo

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he is a former department of defense dod

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employee who says that

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during his time working inside the

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pentagon he headed a secret ufo

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study known as the advanced aerospace

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threat identification program

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otherwise known as atip his story

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quickly spread throughout the mainstream

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media

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garnering international attention and

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people became enthralled by the idea

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that behind the scenes

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the us government was actively

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investigating ufos

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and most likely hiding everything it

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knew but despite the praise and

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adoration by many

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elizondo's journey of stepping into a

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global spotlight

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would not come without many challenges

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for him to overcome

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it would take just under two months for

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elizondo to receive some pushback from

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his former employer which

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challenged some of his claims then

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about a year and a half later he went

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public

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the pentagon would fire a more precise

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shot across the bow to directly target

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elizondo's integrity with what seemed to

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be

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a damning statement they told the

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intercept

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in june of 2019 that elizondo had no

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responsibilities on the a-tip

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this would later be amended to no

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assigned responsibilities armed only

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with official statements but offering

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no supporting documentation it appeared

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that the pentagon had a concerted effort

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to negate everything that elizondo

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had brought forward to the public

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now more than three and a half years

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later after

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elizano told his extraordinary story

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about investigating

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unidentified aerial threats for the

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united states government

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the saga has taken an unexpected turn

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the dod has now admitted exclusively to

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the black vault

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that they have destroyed some of the

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most crucial evidence

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that could either prove or disprove

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elizondo's work history within a secret

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ufo study

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the discovery came when the dod sent the

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black vault

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a final determination a final

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determination letter after three years

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of numerous

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foia requests and multiple appeals

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seeking out elizondo's emails despite a

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number of those appeals being granted

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and what seemed like numerous wins for

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an effort to finally uncover the truth

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the three-year-long effort came to a

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dead end with the first of many remanded

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appeals

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was finally answered now

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i am going to read to you

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all of what the dod said

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quote after thorough

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searches of electronic records and files

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of

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ousd ins

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no records of the kind you described

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elizondo emails containing the word

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unidentified

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could be identified

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please note that emails of former

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department of defense dod

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employees are not retained unless they

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are

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considered historical records

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and retained by the national records

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center

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there are currently no existing email

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accounts for mr

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elizondo we believe

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that search methods were appropriate

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and could be reasonably expected to

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produce the requested

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records if they existed

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period end quote

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if you find that as disturbing as i do

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we're all on the same page here

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now the article continues

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essentially saying the records were

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destroyed the black vault reached out to

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clarify

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the dod has now confirmed nearly two

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months after they

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wrote the letter that their final

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determination does equate to elizondo's

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emails being destroyed

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with no backup available

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beyond confirmation of that they offer

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no

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official statement explaining or

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now earlier today i spoke to john

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greenwald that length

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and we both agreed this

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now right now kind of just

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angry about this right now this leaves

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everyone

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elizondo the community

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and the dod i need to stress this

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this leaves everyone without the ability

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to prove or disprove

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which is a very strange position for

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everyone

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including the dod certainly eliza and

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the community

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shows like this and researchers like

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john greenwald leaves everybody in a

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very strange position

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to have this laid out in front of us

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it's strange you have to ask yourself

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why would the dod destroy

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right now i think we're at the most

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historical point in all of mankind in

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all of history

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and those emails are

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why would they destroy them

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this obviously doesn't make any sense

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for them the dod right

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doesn't make any sense that uh for on

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both

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sides all of the statements that susan

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gow has made

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everything and the flip-flopping

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what were they based on the emails were

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destroyed what were they

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what were they based on anything that

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could

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it's gone why would the dod

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do that we've got the

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the the the ig

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right now is doing an investigation for

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all of this and why this is going on

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they

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along

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and john i hope you don't mind me saying

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this uh publicly

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john and i have been talking about this

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for months

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and and we knew that it was

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what this is john's doing i'm just

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talking to john

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but we knew that this was going to come

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to a resolve

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at some point we didn't know

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how this was going to end and this

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article today was put off

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by john i'm telling you john again i

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apologize this is a private conversation

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between the two of us but

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but john held on to this for for

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this article today that was released was

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pretty much written three months ago

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and and he was just waiting for the

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final determination finally

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just trying to get to you know it just

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seemed impossible

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unfathomable that the dod would destroy

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emails and especially emails of this and

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it's not just

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uh uh for on elizando's defense here

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this is very serious

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it's not just the ufo issue

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right lou was out there doing all kinds

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of things around the world

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that i would say would deem of a

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historical nature and would need to be

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retained

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for all sorts of reasons and i don't

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want to get into those details but

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he was doing stuff for this country

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in other countries in the united states

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as well

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but why destroy those

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you know um it doesn't doesn't make any

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sense not only on the dod side but now

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where does this leave lou

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it's it's it's not it's not a good

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situation i'm shocked i'm surprised

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about it

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i just read you the opening

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uh first section of a

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very long very comprehensive article

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uh by john greenwald so i encourage

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everybody to go over to the black vault

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i've got

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uh the links to

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00:24:20,549 --> 00:24:18,480
the article right there in twitter you

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00:24:24,390 --> 00:24:20,559
can go and read it for yourself

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00:24:29,350 --> 00:24:24,400
and it's it's shocking shocking

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just when you thought things couldn't

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get any crazier

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right seriously just when you thought

549
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here we are

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right we get this the ig is doing

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in an investigation on behalf of

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of of lou and now the documents are

553
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that's just strange to me strange

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00:25:02,470 --> 00:24:58,840
strange

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00:25:05,510 --> 00:25:02,480
lou on the show

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00:25:08,549 --> 00:25:05,520
know how he feels about this well

557
00:25:12,710 --> 00:25:08,559
obviously he's not happy but uh

558
00:25:14,590 --> 00:25:12,720
wow wow great work john greenwald

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00:25:15,990 --> 00:25:14,600
everybody go visit the black vault the

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00:25:17,789 --> 00:25:16,000
blackvault.com

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00:25:19,269 --> 00:25:17,799
you can certainly follow

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00:25:21,190 --> 00:25:19,279
johnblackvaultcom

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00:25:23,190 --> 00:25:21,200
right here on twitter i am your host

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00:25:25,590 --> 00:25:23,200
jimmy church this is fade to black

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00:25:28,149 --> 00:25:25,600
finally we got to a fader night it has

566
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been crazy around here this last month

567
00:25:32,630 --> 00:25:30,799
but tonight is fader night although it's

568
00:25:35,190 --> 00:25:32,640
an abridged version because

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when i come back after this break it is

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ray santilli

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live from the united kingdom it is

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tonight we are going to discuss just

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when he thought things couldn't get

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[Music]

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welcome back fade to black i am your

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host jimmy church tonight is

721
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fader night not just any fader night

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tonight for the first hour we have ray

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santilli with us

724
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live from london and

725
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it just takes me right back to 1995

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and thinking about the hysteria uh the

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the craziness that the ufo community and

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the rest of the world

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uh went through with the alien autopsy

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film race antilles of course one of the

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principles behind it

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and everything that followed uh it is an

733
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incredible

734
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i've always uh have looked forward to

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having ray on the show and we finally

736
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got to do that tonight

737
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ray welcome all the way from london how

738
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are you well for you this morning

739
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how are you doing yeah good morning from

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london it's

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3 30 in the morning so it's time i'm

742
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normally in bed but it's

743
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it's good to talk to you yeah it's uh

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and thank you

745
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um and i know that we put this uh

746
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together really quickly and i want to

747
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thank

748
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dave altman of course uh for for doing

749
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everything to to get this together

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and but it is uh an important time now

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before we

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uh discuss what is happening right now

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with the auction which is absolutely

754
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incredible

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um just this is my first opportunity to

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uh talk to you well besides earlier

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today

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but this is the second time right and um

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but i have to ask you the one question

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that i've always thought about with you

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which is if you go

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back you go back to the

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the before the craziness started did you

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have

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any idea i mean because you were in the

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entertainment industry anyway

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uh back then but did you have any idea

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what was about to happen no

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um if we go back 25 uh well nearly 30

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years now

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to 1992 right when we first came across

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the footage

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roswell wasn't a household name um the

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whole thing

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really was far uh quite far away from

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the public psyche

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um and when we first came across the

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footage

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you know it was interesting but we had

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no idea that it would kick off the way

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that it did

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um and spark all the worldwide interest

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um

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i was not particularly into ufos it

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wasn't a subject that i had any real

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knowledge of um

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and the whole thing you know was a

788
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roller coaster um

789
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and we learned as we um went along with

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the project that the

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the whole the ufo community uh is almost

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like a business in itself as well

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and we were treading on people's toes

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you know we had this hot property which

795
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at the beginning

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the ufo community you know wanted but

797
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certainly the dignitaries within the ufo

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community wanted to get involved with it

799
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and when we decided that

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no we'll handle it ourselves they became

801
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our enemy

802
00:35:34,150 --> 00:35:33,280
so we were fighting you know the senior

803
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hierarchy

804
00:35:38,390 --> 00:35:36,640
in the ufo community which treated

805
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ufology as a business

806
00:35:41,910 --> 00:35:40,560
with their trade fairs and so forth and

807
00:35:45,109 --> 00:35:41,920
you know we were trying to get this

808
00:35:45,589 --> 00:35:45,119
this film to market and um you know we

809
00:35:47,910 --> 00:35:45,599
we've

810
00:35:49,990 --> 00:35:47,920
we found ourselves in basically what was

811
00:35:51,030 --> 00:35:50,000
a street fight worldwide you know for a

812
00:35:53,990 --> 00:35:51,040
number of years

813
00:35:56,470 --> 00:35:54,000
now and of course you know when when as

814
00:35:59,829 --> 00:35:56,480
this starts to spin out of control

815
00:36:01,270 --> 00:35:59,839
it's the media it's networks there's

816
00:36:03,510 --> 00:36:01,280
money there's kind of

817
00:36:05,349 --> 00:36:03,520
it it is we had no we had no problem

818
00:36:07,349 --> 00:36:05,359
with the networks or with the media

819
00:36:09,109 --> 00:36:07,359
it was the ufo community and the

820
00:36:10,630 --> 00:36:09,119
dignitaries within the community that we

821
00:36:12,710 --> 00:36:10,640
had our problems

822
00:36:13,910 --> 00:36:12,720
how did you how did you it's like a

823
00:36:16,069 --> 00:36:13,920
bucking bronco

824
00:36:17,109 --> 00:36:16,079
right yeah you know how do you how do

825
00:36:19,990 --> 00:36:17,119
you tame that

826
00:36:21,109 --> 00:36:20,000
i guess you probably don't no you don't

827
00:36:24,550 --> 00:36:21,119
you just hold on

828
00:36:26,390 --> 00:36:24,560
i hope you don't get bumped too much um

829
00:36:28,150 --> 00:36:26,400
but no i mean the footage itself when we

830
00:36:29,349 --> 00:36:28,160
first came across it was just the most

831
00:36:31,190 --> 00:36:29,359
remarkable film

832
00:36:33,150 --> 00:36:31,200
i mean you know we didn't know if it was

833
00:36:34,870 --> 00:36:33,160
an alien autopsy we weren't around in

834
00:36:36,550 --> 00:36:34,880
1947 uh but

835
00:36:38,710 --> 00:36:36,560
on good faith based on you know

836
00:36:41,190 --> 00:36:38,720
everything that the camera man had said

837
00:36:42,630 --> 00:36:41,200
um and what we could see on film we knew

838
00:36:46,069 --> 00:36:42,640
it was certainly not normal

839
00:36:49,270 --> 00:36:46,079
um and we took his story and all we did

840
00:36:52,550 --> 00:36:49,280
was relay the facts as presented to us

841
00:36:55,349 --> 00:36:52,560
um and um and then you know the

842
00:36:56,069 --> 00:36:55,359
roller coaster started now i'm sure you

843
00:36:58,390 --> 00:36:56,079
would have done

844
00:36:59,829 --> 00:36:58,400
a lot of things differently certainly

845
00:37:01,990 --> 00:36:59,839
you know with what you know now

846
00:37:03,589 --> 00:37:02,000
and the way that the film disintegrated

847
00:37:05,829 --> 00:37:03,599
and you wouldn't have

848
00:37:07,750 --> 00:37:05,839
uh gone down that road and we may still

849
00:37:11,270 --> 00:37:07,760
have the film today if it was

850
00:37:14,470 --> 00:37:11,280
different but that being said you had

851
00:37:17,910 --> 00:37:14,480
always stated that well after

852
00:37:21,190 --> 00:37:17,920
the disclosure part of it uh came out

853
00:37:24,550 --> 00:37:21,200
that there were a few frames

854
00:37:25,589 --> 00:37:24,560
that were included in in the film that

855
00:37:28,230 --> 00:37:25,599
you created

856
00:37:29,109 --> 00:37:28,240
right there's that part absolutely right

857
00:37:32,150 --> 00:37:29,119
now

858
00:37:34,390 --> 00:37:32,160
um the film frame

859
00:37:37,990 --> 00:37:34,400
that i have seen that is that is up

860
00:37:41,190 --> 00:37:38,000
right now um on the auction website

861
00:37:45,349 --> 00:37:41,200
that film frame is there

862
00:37:48,310 --> 00:37:45,359
why do this now why not have that film

863
00:37:50,150 --> 00:37:48,320
frame out in the public domain for

864
00:37:53,910 --> 00:37:50,160
whatever reason uh

865
00:37:57,190 --> 00:37:53,920
20 years ago 15 years ago why now

866
00:38:00,550 --> 00:37:57,200
um i think really it's uh

867
00:38:02,230 --> 00:38:00,560
it's commercial um i've got

868
00:38:04,710 --> 00:38:02,240
you know a few frames left and we

869
00:38:06,630 --> 00:38:04,720
decided um that

870
00:38:08,870 --> 00:38:06,640
the reason really to do it now is

871
00:38:09,589 --> 00:38:08,880
because the nft world has just kicked

872
00:38:12,310 --> 00:38:09,599
off

873
00:38:13,670 --> 00:38:12,320
um there's a lot of interest in in that

874
00:38:16,710 --> 00:38:13,680
that kind of product

875
00:38:19,430 --> 00:38:16,720
and um it's purely commercial i've got

876
00:38:21,829 --> 00:38:19,440
you know there's no reason not to do it

877
00:38:23,670 --> 00:38:21,839
and i do know that the ufo community and

878
00:38:26,550 --> 00:38:23,680
the general media would like to

879
00:38:28,390 --> 00:38:26,560
would like a frame um and if i'm going

880
00:38:30,790 --> 00:38:28,400
to release it i might as well

881
00:38:32,310 --> 00:38:30,800
do it in the in the most commercially

882
00:38:34,950 --> 00:38:32,320
efficient way possible

883
00:38:36,550 --> 00:38:34,960
so the nft market uh which at the moment

884
00:38:38,150 --> 00:38:36,560
seems to be exploding seems

885
00:38:40,630 --> 00:38:38,160
you know a reasonably good platform to

886
00:38:43,750 --> 00:38:40,640
do it you know what that's that that's

887
00:38:45,510 --> 00:38:43,760
the most honest answer i can think of

888
00:38:47,990 --> 00:38:45,520
i'm gonna be straight with you well you

889
00:38:48,790 --> 00:38:48,000
know i'm getting old it's the last spin

890
00:38:50,710 --> 00:38:48,800
of the dice

891
00:38:52,790 --> 00:38:50,720
so yeah i thought maybe i'll just give

892
00:38:56,310 --> 00:38:52,800
that give it a run and see what happens

893
00:38:58,390 --> 00:38:56,320
well there you go now um

894
00:39:00,550 --> 00:38:58,400
here's the next series of questions and

895
00:39:02,630 --> 00:39:00,560
some of them are pretty obvious

896
00:39:04,150 --> 00:39:02,640
after everything that you have gone

897
00:39:07,829 --> 00:39:04,160
through

898
00:39:11,349 --> 00:39:07,839
now you know coming out with this now

899
00:39:14,390 --> 00:39:11,359
everybody is going to be scrutinizing

900
00:39:17,270 --> 00:39:14,400
this situation you know

901
00:39:19,030 --> 00:39:17,280
what is about to happen so i don't

902
00:39:20,630 --> 00:39:19,040
believe

903
00:39:22,069 --> 00:39:20,640
that i mean are you prepared for that

904
00:39:23,589 --> 00:39:22,079
there's going to be the debunkers the

905
00:39:26,230 --> 00:39:23,599
skeptics so here we go

906
00:39:27,030 --> 00:39:26,240
again with with race and tilly right

907
00:39:29,589 --> 00:39:27,040
well

908
00:39:30,550 --> 00:39:29,599
there's nothing more i can say really to

909
00:39:33,510 --> 00:39:30,560
anyone because

910
00:39:34,710 --> 00:39:33,520
everyone knows the story um the the

911
00:39:38,310 --> 00:39:34,720
frame is there

912
00:39:40,230 --> 00:39:38,320
um and and um and actually the frame

913
00:39:41,670 --> 00:39:40,240
will probably answer a lot a lot of

914
00:39:42,069 --> 00:39:41,680
questions for a lot of people and

915
00:39:44,630 --> 00:39:42,079
actually

916
00:39:45,430 --> 00:39:44,640
it may it may calm things down a bit

917
00:39:47,670 --> 00:39:45,440
because

918
00:39:48,630 --> 00:39:47,680
there is no further information that the

919
00:39:51,750 --> 00:39:48,640
the frame is the

920
00:39:53,910 --> 00:39:51,760
is the final piece of evidence um and

921
00:39:58,390 --> 00:39:53,920
it's there now and it can be scrutinized

922
00:39:59,910 --> 00:39:58,400
and um all questions are answered really

923
00:40:00,870 --> 00:39:59,920
there's nothing i have nothing more to

924
00:40:02,550 --> 00:40:00,880
offer this is

925
00:40:03,990 --> 00:40:02,560
this is it yeah here's the physical

926
00:40:06,870 --> 00:40:04,000
frame right there you go

927
00:40:08,710 --> 00:40:06,880
examine it as much as you like um and

928
00:40:10,470 --> 00:40:08,720
and take over the project

929
00:40:12,069 --> 00:40:10,480
now this is people should ask people

930
00:40:13,670 --> 00:40:12,079
should ask more of the government

931
00:40:16,390 --> 00:40:13,680
they should ask more about what really

932
00:40:18,309 --> 00:40:16,400
happened in 1947 and i should really

933
00:40:19,750 --> 00:40:18,319
you know i know the pentagon are going

934
00:40:21,990 --> 00:40:19,760
to be releasing more papers

935
00:40:23,430 --> 00:40:22,000
um in a couple of weeks time to do with

936
00:40:25,349 --> 00:40:23,440
the whole uh

937
00:40:27,670 --> 00:40:25,359
situation regarding ufos i think there's

938
00:40:29,270 --> 00:40:27,680
a lot of information about to come out

939
00:40:31,430 --> 00:40:29,280
um with the release of the frame that's

940
00:40:32,550 --> 00:40:31,440
the that's the final piece of evidence i

941
00:40:35,589 --> 00:40:32,560
can throw into the

942
00:40:38,630 --> 00:40:35,599
into the discussion the uh

943
00:40:40,710 --> 00:40:38,640
as i thought about this um

944
00:40:43,190 --> 00:40:40,720
i i backed up and i want to i'm going to

945
00:40:47,109 --> 00:40:43,200
give you a quick 10 second analysis

946
00:40:50,390 --> 00:40:47,119
and then i want your comment on it the

947
00:40:53,510 --> 00:40:50,400
the alien is

948
00:40:56,950 --> 00:40:53,520
in this film

949
00:40:58,790 --> 00:40:56,960
right so how did it get there i'm asking

950
00:41:02,069 --> 00:40:58,800
myself this right okay

951
00:41:05,030 --> 00:41:02,079
so it got shot on

952
00:41:06,870 --> 00:41:05,040
this film and the film it has the codes

953
00:41:10,470 --> 00:41:06,880
on it that were dated from

954
00:41:13,190 --> 00:41:10,480
uh kodak right that go back to 1947

955
00:41:14,790 --> 00:41:13,200
there's only one way for that to be on

956
00:41:18,390 --> 00:41:14,800
this film and that is

957
00:41:19,430 --> 00:41:18,400
that it was shot then unless right on a

958
00:41:22,630 --> 00:41:19,440
camera

959
00:41:25,510 --> 00:41:22,640
unless you or somebody else got

960
00:41:27,510 --> 00:41:25,520
old film stock and then shot it which is

961
00:41:29,750 --> 00:41:27,520
probably harder to do

962
00:41:31,109 --> 00:41:29,760
than acquire a piece of film that was

963
00:41:34,309 --> 00:41:31,119
shot in 1947

964
00:41:36,309 --> 00:41:34,319
well personally i i don't know whether

965
00:41:40,150 --> 00:41:36,319
film from 1947

966
00:41:42,550 --> 00:41:40,160
uh used in the 1990s would

967
00:41:44,550 --> 00:41:42,560
react the same way and whether it even

968
00:41:47,910 --> 00:41:44,560
still be viable

969
00:41:49,030 --> 00:41:47,920
the camera itself that was used we would

970
00:41:52,309 --> 00:41:49,040
leave artifacts

971
00:41:54,069 --> 00:41:52,319
uh you know so um that if you're gonna

972
00:41:55,670 --> 00:41:54,079
shoot it in the 1990s you'd have to

973
00:41:58,550 --> 00:41:55,680
shoot it on an old camera

974
00:41:58,950 --> 00:41:58,560
um as well i would imagine the science

975
00:42:04,230 --> 00:41:58,960
of

976
00:42:05,270 --> 00:42:04,240
such footage with with old film in the

977
00:42:07,750 --> 00:42:05,280
90s would be

978
00:42:08,390 --> 00:42:07,760
quite difficult so now i mean it is what

979
00:42:14,950 --> 00:42:08,400
it was

980
00:42:18,550 --> 00:42:14,960
um and and whatever that

981
00:42:21,670 --> 00:42:18,560
image on the table is um

982
00:42:23,750 --> 00:42:21,680
was originally originally filmed in 1947

983
00:42:25,109 --> 00:42:23,760
now i've never said it was an alien

984
00:42:26,470 --> 00:42:25,119
because i've you know nobody

985
00:42:28,150 --> 00:42:26,480
he can't say something he doesn't know

986
00:42:29,829 --> 00:42:28,160
what it is but it is certainly a

987
00:42:32,870 --> 00:42:29,839
creature

988
00:42:35,829 --> 00:42:32,880
and not particularly human-looking

989
00:42:37,109 --> 00:42:35,839
now um i only know from uh the couple of

990
00:42:40,069 --> 00:42:37,119
movies that i've seen

991
00:42:41,349 --> 00:42:40,079
and the one comedy uh that was uh done

992
00:42:44,710 --> 00:42:41,359
uh which was actually

993
00:42:48,550 --> 00:42:44,720
a very good film i might add um i only

994
00:42:51,750 --> 00:42:48,560
know that in your previous interviews so

995
00:42:54,309 --> 00:42:51,760
um let's help me walk through this

996
00:42:55,430 --> 00:42:54,319
you saw the film in florida right in its

997
00:42:58,950 --> 00:42:55,440
entirety

998
00:43:01,990 --> 00:42:58,960
right that's right 1992 and in 92

999
00:43:04,069 --> 00:43:02,000
so that was once and then you

1000
00:43:05,030 --> 00:43:04,079
you you went back to england and and you

1001
00:43:06,870 --> 00:43:05,040
collect some money

1002
00:43:09,030 --> 00:43:06,880
and you come back and you purchase the

1003
00:43:12,150 --> 00:43:09,040
film then go back to england

1004
00:43:16,309 --> 00:43:12,160
when yeah did

1005
00:43:20,150 --> 00:43:18,950
um i saw the film originally as you say

1006
00:43:22,790 --> 00:43:20,160
in 1992

1007
00:43:23,910 --> 00:43:22,800
um cameraman showed me the full 20

1008
00:43:26,230 --> 00:43:23,920
minutes

1009
00:43:26,950 --> 00:43:26,240
he opened containers which was sealed

1010
00:43:30,470 --> 00:43:26,960
for

1011
00:43:33,990 --> 00:43:30,480
film

1012
00:43:36,069 --> 00:43:34,000
at his house um then there was almost a

1013
00:43:37,670 --> 00:43:36,079
two-year negotiation to try and drum up

1014
00:43:39,589 --> 00:43:37,680
the money to buy the film

1015
00:43:41,349 --> 00:43:39,599
originally when i saw the film around

1016
00:43:44,230 --> 00:43:41,359
the company that's now universal

1017
00:43:44,550 --> 00:43:44,240
we're going to purchase it but because

1018
00:43:46,630 --> 00:43:44,560
of

1019
00:43:48,069 --> 00:43:46,640
legal because there was no providence

1020
00:43:49,670 --> 00:43:48,079
attached to it because the cameron

1021
00:43:52,950 --> 00:43:49,680
didn't want to give up his name

1022
00:43:56,230 --> 00:43:52,960
because of a whole load of complicated

1023
00:43:57,589 --> 00:43:56,240
uh issues to do with uh providence

1024
00:44:00,150 --> 00:43:57,599
they they decided they weren't going to

1025
00:44:02,710 --> 00:44:00,160
go ahead and so i was left

1026
00:44:04,870 --> 00:44:02,720
searching the investor friends that i

1027
00:44:06,470 --> 00:44:04,880
had you know to drum up the money to

1028
00:44:08,150 --> 00:44:06,480
to purchase a film i eventually got the

1029
00:44:09,750 --> 00:44:08,160
money went back two years later but in

1030
00:44:12,790 --> 00:44:09,760
that two-year period

1031
00:44:16,630 --> 00:44:12,800
um the the air had had

1032
00:44:18,390 --> 00:44:16,640
got to the uh the film and oxidized it

1033
00:44:20,630 --> 00:44:18,400
almost and you couldn't run it through

1034
00:44:21,990 --> 00:44:20,640
for a projector or anything because it

1035
00:44:24,550 --> 00:44:22,000
just everything just peeled

1036
00:44:25,349 --> 00:44:24,560
off so we had to take frame grabs

1037
00:44:27,270 --> 00:44:25,359
eventually

1038
00:44:29,109 --> 00:44:27,280
um we didn't handle the film

1039
00:44:32,390 --> 00:44:29,119
particularly well we weren't expert

1040
00:44:33,109 --> 00:44:32,400
um but we got we got a few images from

1041
00:44:36,790 --> 00:44:33,119
it and then we

1042
00:44:37,270 --> 00:44:36,800
we restore the film as the best way i

1043
00:44:41,109 --> 00:44:37,280
can

1044
00:44:41,349 --> 00:44:41,119
describe it but we undertook a process

1045
00:44:50,790 --> 00:44:41,359
of

1046
00:44:51,829 --> 00:44:50,800
so and this is why i'm asking this

1047
00:44:55,430 --> 00:44:51,839
question

1048
00:44:58,550 --> 00:44:55,440
as i look at this single frame

1049
00:45:00,550 --> 00:44:58,560
and and i'm going for memory from that

1050
00:45:02,470 --> 00:45:00,560
the hundreds of times i've watched alien

1051
00:45:04,950 --> 00:45:02,480
autopsy right okay so i

1052
00:45:05,510 --> 00:45:04,960
we all know uh the scenes that you shot

1053
00:45:08,230 --> 00:45:05,520
there

1054
00:45:08,790 --> 00:45:08,240
i'm looking at the frame and thinking

1055
00:45:12,390 --> 00:45:08,800
about

1056
00:45:12,950 --> 00:45:12,400
the film and you were able to recreate

1057
00:45:16,630 --> 00:45:12,960
it

1058
00:45:21,430 --> 00:45:16,640
that

1059
00:45:24,950 --> 00:45:21,440
different to me but

1060
00:45:26,630 --> 00:45:24,960
it's pretty it's pretty close to

1061
00:45:30,390 --> 00:45:26,640
what is in that frame what is

1062
00:45:33,910 --> 00:45:30,400
represented in this one single frame

1063
00:45:36,470 --> 00:45:33,920
we use some of the best people uh in in

1064
00:45:37,829 --> 00:45:36,480
cinematography over here um and also in

1065
00:45:39,990 --> 00:45:37,839
special effects so

1066
00:45:41,430 --> 00:45:40,000
you know it was it was dead easy really

1067
00:45:41,910 --> 00:45:41,440
when you had the the skills and the

1068
00:45:46,470 --> 00:45:41,920
talent

1069
00:45:49,510 --> 00:45:46,480
that we had access to um so um

1070
00:45:52,630 --> 00:45:49,520
you know getting all the uh

1071
00:45:54,710 --> 00:45:52,640
uh uh the set set up and everything else

1072
00:45:56,309 --> 00:45:54,720
it was it was a labor of love and it

1073
00:45:57,430 --> 00:45:56,319
turned out it turned out to be very

1074
00:46:00,870 --> 00:45:57,440
successful

1075
00:46:02,630 --> 00:46:00,880
now if we um you know what everybody

1076
00:46:04,230 --> 00:46:02,640
is going to do they're going to take

1077
00:46:07,030 --> 00:46:04,240
this single frame

1078
00:46:09,030 --> 00:46:07,040
they're going to go back to your film

1079
00:46:09,510 --> 00:46:09,040
and they are going to compare this to

1080
00:46:12,470 --> 00:46:09,520
see if

1081
00:46:13,589 --> 00:46:12,480
either the same or how close it is or

1082
00:46:15,270 --> 00:46:13,599
what the differences

1083
00:46:17,109 --> 00:46:15,280
are it's going to be scrutinized and i

1084
00:46:17,750 --> 00:46:17,119
know that you're prepared for this it is

1085
00:46:20,230 --> 00:46:17,760
what it is

1086
00:46:21,750 --> 00:46:20,240
yeah um it is what it did you've got to

1087
00:46:24,630 --> 00:46:21,760
hit the hell on the head

1088
00:46:25,030 --> 00:46:24,640
i can't change what's on there now but

1089
00:46:28,550 --> 00:46:25,040
um

1090
00:46:32,069 --> 00:46:28,560
there nobody is going to step forward

1091
00:46:36,230 --> 00:46:32,079
and show that the frame that

1092
00:46:40,390 --> 00:46:36,240
is up for auction is identical

1093
00:46:43,510 --> 00:46:40,400
or pulled from your film

1094
00:46:47,030 --> 00:46:43,520
the recreation i should say i mean

1095
00:46:49,349 --> 00:46:47,040
that would be impossible um

1096
00:46:51,589 --> 00:46:49,359
no well no that's not entirely true

1097
00:46:53,309 --> 00:46:51,599
because that frame is within the film

1098
00:46:54,710 --> 00:46:53,319
well they would have to grab that

1099
00:46:58,790 --> 00:46:54,720
specific

1100
00:47:05,589 --> 00:47:01,990
i believe that is possible you think so

1101
00:47:07,510 --> 00:47:05,599
okay okay um hmm

1102
00:47:08,950 --> 00:47:07,520
i didn't i didn't think about doing that

1103
00:47:12,390 --> 00:47:08,960
i i do have a copy

1104
00:47:14,790 --> 00:47:12,400
of of the film um how many frames are

1105
00:47:15,750 --> 00:47:14,800
in your if you if you look at the start

1106
00:47:19,109 --> 00:47:15,760
of the film

1107
00:47:22,630 --> 00:47:19,119
um it's

1108
00:47:24,069 --> 00:47:22,640
right at the front end right right right

1109
00:47:27,589 --> 00:47:24,079
right right right i got you

1110
00:47:30,150 --> 00:47:27,599
i got you um now uh okay so

1111
00:47:31,750 --> 00:47:30,160
moving on from this uh to where we are

1112
00:47:33,589 --> 00:47:31,760
today and then we'll pick up uh with

1113
00:47:37,829 --> 00:47:33,599
everything after the break

1114
00:47:41,430 --> 00:47:37,839
um there was uh a little bit of drama

1115
00:47:44,069 --> 00:47:41,440
right and there's got to be more drama

1116
00:47:44,870 --> 00:47:44,079
where uh with the website and and the

1117
00:47:48,470 --> 00:47:44,880
hosting

1118
00:47:49,190 --> 00:47:48,480
for uh the auction yeah yeah what you're

1119
00:47:52,630 --> 00:47:49,200
talking about

1120
00:47:55,030 --> 00:47:52,640
website yes of course

1121
00:47:56,069 --> 00:47:55,040
what happened totally totally bizarre

1122
00:47:59,109 --> 00:47:56,079
you couldn't make it up

1123
00:48:00,390 --> 00:47:59,119
obviously you know we're we're almost i

1124
00:48:03,510 --> 00:48:00,400
think 10 minutes from the

1125
00:48:06,549 --> 00:48:03,520
the end of the campaign um and

1126
00:48:08,950 --> 00:48:06,559
the the site crashes um

1127
00:48:10,790 --> 00:48:08,960
and um obviously all the conspiracy

1128
00:48:11,910 --> 00:48:10,800
theorists out there are saying that you

1129
00:48:13,750 --> 00:48:11,920
know it was brought down

1130
00:48:16,150 --> 00:48:13,760
um because of this one auction but who

1131
00:48:18,950 --> 00:48:16,160
knows i mean it was just bizarre

1132
00:48:19,510 --> 00:48:18,960
um so so it's kicked off again it's up

1133
00:48:23,190 --> 00:48:19,520
there

1134
00:48:24,309 --> 00:48:23,200
a lot of interest and and i expect that

1135
00:48:27,349 --> 00:48:24,319
this weekend will be

1136
00:48:28,470 --> 00:48:27,359
a rather unusual one for me now um and

1137
00:48:33,510 --> 00:48:28,480
they extended

1138
00:48:34,950 --> 00:48:33,520
lost everything all the information

1139
00:48:37,190 --> 00:48:34,960
everything had just gone and so we've

1140
00:48:39,030 --> 00:48:37,200
kicked off again oh you have to start

1141
00:48:42,950 --> 00:48:39,040
back at zero

1142
00:48:44,950 --> 00:48:42,960
have to start over

1143
00:48:46,230 --> 00:48:44,960
i should say yeah so we had to restart

1144
00:48:48,790 --> 00:48:46,240
the auction now

1145
00:48:50,549 --> 00:48:48,800
uh what about the valuation i have i'm

1146
00:48:53,510 --> 00:48:50,559
very curious about that i

1147
00:48:54,870 --> 00:48:53,520
i look at the valuation and i think that

1148
00:48:56,309 --> 00:48:54,880
it's low

1149
00:48:58,470 --> 00:48:56,319
but then i think well i don't know it's

1150
00:49:02,069 --> 00:48:58,480
kind of high so

1151
00:49:05,270 --> 00:49:02,079
i it's probably if authentic

1152
00:49:06,150 --> 00:49:05,280
the most important piece maybe in all of

1153
00:49:09,109 --> 00:49:06,160
human history

1154
00:49:10,230 --> 00:49:09,119
right so what would the value of that i

1155
00:49:12,390 --> 00:49:10,240
mean

1156
00:49:14,069 --> 00:49:12,400
i suppose it's subjective any anyone

1157
00:49:17,430 --> 00:49:14,079
that has an interest in the subject

1158
00:49:19,349 --> 00:49:17,440
is going to be hugely valuable um

1159
00:49:21,349 --> 00:49:19,359
and it's it's like any collectible i

1160
00:49:24,549 --> 00:49:21,359
suppose i think that the value is in

1161
00:49:27,270 --> 00:49:24,559
in is determined by the buyer um

1162
00:49:28,790 --> 00:49:27,280
and so that's i've set a a minimum

1163
00:49:29,670 --> 00:49:28,800
that's not that's not the price for

1164
00:49:32,630 --> 00:49:29,680
selling it

1165
00:49:34,230 --> 00:49:32,640
i guess is the minimum but um i'm

1166
00:49:36,470 --> 00:49:34,240
expecting it to

1167
00:49:37,270 --> 00:49:36,480
to achieve maybe five ten times that

1168
00:49:40,309 --> 00:49:37,280
figure

1169
00:49:41,510 --> 00:49:40,319
you think it'll get to 10 million i

1170
00:49:43,349 --> 00:49:41,520
think i i think

1171
00:49:44,790 --> 00:49:43,359
it will go it should go a lot higher

1172
00:49:46,069 --> 00:49:44,800
than the minimum that's been set it's

1173
00:49:47,589 --> 00:49:46,079
like any auction

1174
00:49:50,309 --> 00:49:47,599
you know anything goes into auction it

1175
00:49:52,710 --> 00:49:50,319
has a minimum um

1176
00:49:55,270 --> 00:49:52,720
i'd be sorry to see it go at that price

1177
00:49:57,030 --> 00:49:55,280
um i think i think it's worth more

1178
00:49:58,630 --> 00:49:57,040
but you know we're talking to people in

1179
00:49:59,589 --> 00:49:58,640
the collectibles world and talking to

1180
00:50:02,230 --> 00:49:59,599
people at uh

1181
00:50:03,510 --> 00:50:02,240
wearable and so forth we came up with

1182
00:50:06,390 --> 00:50:03,520
what we thought was

1183
00:50:07,589 --> 00:50:06,400
an achievable minimum um but we think it

1184
00:50:10,829 --> 00:50:07,599
will go for a lot more

1185
00:50:12,069 --> 00:50:10,839
now what does uh what does the winner

1186
00:50:14,710 --> 00:50:12,079
get

1187
00:50:16,549 --> 00:50:14,720
yeah see this is this is why the the

1188
00:50:17,750 --> 00:50:16,559
whole nft world is quite interesting

1189
00:50:21,670 --> 00:50:17,760
because apart from the

1190
00:50:25,190 --> 00:50:21,680
the token which is really

1191
00:50:27,910 --> 00:50:25,200
some form of crypto which is why people

1192
00:50:29,910 --> 00:50:27,920
enter the the nft market we're also

1193
00:50:32,309 --> 00:50:29,920
sending them the physical items so they

1194
00:50:34,470 --> 00:50:32,319
will get the physical frame

1195
00:50:35,990 --> 00:50:34,480
they can then take that frame and do

1196
00:50:40,950 --> 00:50:36,000
what they like with it

1197
00:50:43,910 --> 00:50:40,960
and the uh the nft the digital file

1198
00:50:44,710 --> 00:50:43,920
itself and this is where i i'm totally

1199
00:50:47,510 --> 00:50:44,720
intrigued and

1200
00:50:49,109 --> 00:50:47,520
interested in in this this new thing

1201
00:50:52,230 --> 00:50:49,119
that is going on

1202
00:50:53,750 --> 00:50:52,240
it is entered that digital file is

1203
00:50:57,109 --> 00:50:53,760
entered into the blockchain

1204
00:50:57,829 --> 00:50:57,119
it is marked as the original nobody else

1205
00:51:01,030 --> 00:50:57,839
can have the

1206
00:51:03,670 --> 00:51:01,040
original digital file yep right

1207
00:51:04,069 --> 00:51:03,680
yep there could be millions of of copies

1208
00:51:06,309 --> 00:51:04,079
of it

1209
00:51:07,990 --> 00:51:06,319
that's correct right that's correct so

1210
00:51:10,870 --> 00:51:08,000
they get the original digital file

1211
00:51:12,870 --> 00:51:10,880
which then becomes uh the token is a

1212
00:51:15,349 --> 00:51:12,880
form of currency in itself

1213
00:51:16,230 --> 00:51:15,359
um and then they get the frame um you

1214
00:51:19,190 --> 00:51:16,240
know it's a double

1215
00:51:20,549 --> 00:51:19,200
double whammy for whoever um ends up

1216
00:51:22,950 --> 00:51:20,559
purchasing it

1217
00:51:25,190 --> 00:51:22,960
now here's the next thing uh before the

1218
00:51:28,309 --> 00:51:25,200
break we've got about three minutes ray

1219
00:51:31,430 --> 00:51:28,319
uh okay is uh

1220
00:51:33,510 --> 00:51:31,440
proof of authenticity right well

1221
00:51:35,109 --> 00:51:33,520
obviously you could create a certificate

1222
00:51:36,630 --> 00:51:35,119
you can sign it race and tilly right

1223
00:51:39,670 --> 00:51:36,640
this is my frame

1224
00:51:42,470 --> 00:51:39,680
but but but how else do you prove this

1225
00:51:43,589 --> 00:51:42,480
or what what documentation comes along

1226
00:51:45,910 --> 00:51:43,599
and is given to them

1227
00:51:46,790 --> 00:51:45,920
um i'll tell you what we are doing there

1228
00:51:50,470 --> 00:51:46,800
are a couple of things

1229
00:51:52,950 --> 00:51:50,480
if if you if ufology and and

1230
00:51:54,069 --> 00:51:52,960
authenticity in terms of the 1947

1231
00:51:57,270 --> 00:51:54,079
footage is confirmed

1232
00:51:59,990 --> 00:51:57,280
um is is is the main interest and

1233
00:52:01,750 --> 00:52:00,000
we'll supply the cia papers that have

1234
00:52:02,150 --> 00:52:01,760
recently been released that confirmed

1235
00:52:04,390 --> 00:52:02,160
that the

1236
00:52:06,549 --> 00:52:04,400
the film is real and so forth but the

1237
00:52:07,190 --> 00:52:06,559
the film itself represents something

1238
00:52:09,750 --> 00:52:07,200
more i mean

1239
00:52:10,870 --> 00:52:09,760
it was a it was an important part of

1240
00:52:12,870 --> 00:52:10,880
culture it was

1241
00:52:14,390 --> 00:52:12,880
you know it was quite a defining piece

1242
00:52:16,710 --> 00:52:14,400
of film that was released out into the

1243
00:52:18,710 --> 00:52:16,720
marketplace in 1995 it was

1244
00:52:20,470 --> 00:52:18,720
you know referred to in the simpsons and

1245
00:52:22,790 --> 00:52:20,480
seinfeld and many other

1246
00:52:25,270 --> 00:52:22,800
shows out there so you know it's a piece

1247
00:52:29,109 --> 00:52:25,280
of history whatever it is

1248
00:52:33,190 --> 00:52:29,119
the uh uh the sea there was a mention of

1249
00:52:35,430 --> 00:52:33,200
cia documentation yeah yeah there's um

1250
00:52:36,710 --> 00:52:35,440
there's a whole load of uh internal

1251
00:52:40,150 --> 00:52:36,720
correspondence that

1252
00:52:43,349 --> 00:52:40,160
uh was published about um six months ago

1253
00:52:43,670 --> 00:52:43,359
um and and it was the cia communicating

1254
00:52:46,069 --> 00:52:43,680
with

1255
00:52:47,349 --> 00:52:46,079
other members of the cia uh two

1256
00:52:50,069 --> 00:52:47,359
different departments

1257
00:52:51,589 --> 00:52:50,079
analyzing the film and and confirming to

1258
00:52:52,950 --> 00:52:51,599
each other that it is genuine and they

1259
00:52:55,109 --> 00:52:52,960
knew about it and they have

1260
00:52:58,470 --> 00:52:55,119
they had supporting evidence themselves

1261
00:53:01,670 --> 00:52:58,480
and it's it's an interesting read

1262
00:53:04,790 --> 00:53:01,680
but yeah two cia uh departments

1263
00:53:08,230 --> 00:53:04,800
discussing um uh the footage

1264
00:53:10,549 --> 00:53:08,240
um and at the time and and

1265
00:53:11,349 --> 00:53:10,559
coming up with the conclusion that uh

1266
00:53:14,470 --> 00:53:11,359
that it's all

1267
00:53:16,390 --> 00:53:14,480
authentic now it sounds like uh

1268
00:53:18,069 --> 00:53:16,400
are you talking about when uh kick green

1269
00:53:20,230 --> 00:53:18,079
was emailing back and forth

1270
00:53:21,910 --> 00:53:20,240
with his uh with his buddies hal put off

1271
00:53:24,710 --> 00:53:21,920
in the crew

1272
00:53:26,549 --> 00:53:24,720
yeah yeah and that was a that was a very

1273
00:53:26,870 --> 00:53:26,559
interesting and i'll tell you why that's

1274
00:53:28,309 --> 00:53:26,880
uh

1275
00:53:30,309 --> 00:53:28,319
interesting to me i was talking about

1276
00:53:33,190 --> 00:53:30,319
this last night on the show

1277
00:53:34,870 --> 00:53:33,200
is that when kit green brought this up

1278
00:53:37,750 --> 00:53:34,880
he said that he was shown still

1279
00:53:41,510 --> 00:53:37,760
photographs of the alien autopsy

1280
00:53:41,990 --> 00:53:41,520
uh at the c.i.a and then the film comes

1281
00:53:46,309 --> 00:53:42,000
out he

1282
00:53:47,270 --> 00:53:46,319
sees the film and remembers the images

1283
00:53:49,910 --> 00:53:47,280
that he saw

1284
00:53:50,390 --> 00:53:49,920
and he says hey well you know what i i

1285
00:53:54,309 --> 00:53:50,400
that

1286
00:53:57,349 --> 00:53:54,319
nearly identical

1287
00:54:00,630 --> 00:53:57,359
to what i was shown in in

1288
00:54:02,630 --> 00:54:00,640
in still photographs at the cia

1289
00:54:05,109 --> 00:54:02,640
and that was that was that was pretty

1290
00:54:08,150 --> 00:54:05,119
interesting because it goes back to

1291
00:54:09,750 --> 00:54:08,160
um what i'm seeing in your frame

1292
00:54:11,510 --> 00:54:09,760
right in the single frame and this is

1293
00:54:14,870 --> 00:54:11,520
what i mentioned last night on the show

1294
00:54:17,430 --> 00:54:14,880
ray is that the frame i know

1295
00:54:18,150 --> 00:54:17,440
the film right just like what kit green

1296
00:54:20,470 --> 00:54:18,160
said

1297
00:54:21,589 --> 00:54:20,480
i know the film i see the frame and i

1298
00:54:25,030 --> 00:54:21,599
see the resemblance

1299
00:54:27,270 --> 00:54:25,040
my question is how did this frame get

1300
00:54:29,589 --> 00:54:27,280
filmed and that's where i have to step

1301
00:54:31,750 --> 00:54:29,599
back and say there might be something

1302
00:54:33,670 --> 00:54:31,760
this may be authentic this may be

1303
00:54:35,349 --> 00:54:33,680
exactly what it's supposed to be it's

1304
00:54:36,950 --> 00:54:35,359
pretty amazing to me

1305
00:54:38,710 --> 00:54:36,960
you know sometimes the simplest answer

1306
00:54:40,230 --> 00:54:38,720
is the right answer you know rather than

1307
00:54:43,750 --> 00:54:40,240
trying to over complicate it

1308
00:54:45,349 --> 00:54:43,760
right you're right you know so and i

1309
00:54:47,030 --> 00:54:45,359
can't really say more than that you know

1310
00:54:48,710 --> 00:54:47,040
it it is what it is

1311
00:54:50,950 --> 00:54:48,720
now ray i want you to stay right there

1312
00:54:53,430 --> 00:54:50,960
we're going to come back after the break

1313
00:54:54,309 --> 00:54:53,440
and i'm gonna ask you some fun questions

1314
00:54:59,030 --> 00:54:54,319
okay

1315
00:55:01,430 --> 00:54:59,040
come back i look forward to it yeah

1316
00:55:02,710 --> 00:55:01,440
yes thank you so much for this too by

1317
00:55:04,309 --> 00:55:02,720
the way this is

1318
00:55:05,990 --> 00:55:04,319
this is fade to black i am your host

1319
00:55:07,510 --> 00:55:06,000
jimmy church tonight

1320
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is fader night but i've got a little

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santilli

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your host jimmy church we'll be right

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back after this short break stay with us

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welcome back fade to black i am your

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host jimmy church tonight is thursday it

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is fader night it's open lines

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and we will be opening up the phone

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lines at the bottom of the hour

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uh right now we've got a little bit of a

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special event going on we have race and

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tilly with us

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live from london united kingdom uh of

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course of

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alien autopsy fame and uh

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ray i wanted to take the opportunity

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right now

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to ask you some very serious questions

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you ready for the first one

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the film alien autopsy 2006

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01:01:16,870 --> 01:01:12,480
um brilliant film brilliant

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start to finish how accurate is it

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01:01:22,789 --> 01:01:20,559
the bass story is totally accurate um

1461
01:01:24,710 --> 01:01:22,799
in actual fact it was originally written

1462
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as a drama um

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and because of a variety of issues that

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occurred with the cast

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that it was turned it was only turned

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into a comedy because

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of um difficulty in in

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you know pursuing the original uh

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intended cast so um

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01:01:47,190 --> 01:01:44,880
it was converted into a comedy at the

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last minute that's all i can say but the

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base story is absolutely true it felt

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like a documentary and let me tell you

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let me tell you why

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i'm being very serious the

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uh the journey that

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uh the two of you went through had to

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have

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the elements of comedy that play out in

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um well be serious

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be serious with me ray no i

1482
01:02:20,069 --> 01:02:18,240
it was quite the opposite in 95 when we

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first marketed that film i mean it

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became like a chase like out of 24.

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01:02:27,829 --> 01:02:26,000
um it was really quite dark um but

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when you wrote it down afterwards as a

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screenplay

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it looked it looked too bizarre to be

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real so you know it was turned into a

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comedy

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um but it but it it was actually a lot

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more serious at the time

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01:02:42,470 --> 01:02:40,400
it was all quite dark i mean we had at

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the time when we had the

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footage and we were about to release it

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we had our homes and offices broken into

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01:02:50,630 --> 01:02:48,880
we had all sorts of people stalking us

1498
01:02:52,870 --> 01:02:50,640
it really it wasn't the comedy at the

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time but you know i look at the film and

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i do enjoy it because they've made life

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of what was really quite a dark time

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yeah i i i and i'm being very serious

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here

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01:03:05,750 --> 01:03:04,559
times by the way i think it's just a a

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01:03:08,150 --> 01:03:05,760
great film but

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01:03:09,430 --> 01:03:08,160
i'm i'm looking at these funny moments

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01:03:11,430 --> 01:03:09,440
that were tense

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right but there were these funny moments

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i just had to sit back and go you know

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what i bet that's exactly how it went

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down

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01:03:19,510 --> 01:03:18,880
you know it was something that was uh

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out of

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01:03:25,589 --> 01:03:23,359
individuals

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01:03:27,990 --> 01:03:25,599
and uh yeah now i wanted to ask you

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01:03:32,309 --> 01:03:28,000
about bill pullman's character

1517
01:03:36,870 --> 01:03:32,319
um how accurate was that

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01:03:39,190 --> 01:03:36,880
um uh if i have to be honest with you

1519
01:03:41,510 --> 01:03:39,200
um in the real story that there wasn't a

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01:03:44,549 --> 01:03:41,520
bill pullman character

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01:03:47,029 --> 01:03:44,559
um yeah he was he was the person

1522
01:03:47,670 --> 01:03:47,039
in the screenplay that held the story

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01:03:49,829 --> 01:03:47,680
together

1524
01:03:51,589 --> 01:03:49,839
uh because he was asking the questions

1525
01:03:53,430 --> 01:03:51,599
so um

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01:03:56,230 --> 01:03:53,440
there wasn't a bill pullman in the real

1527
01:03:57,510 --> 01:03:56,240
story ah you just killed one of my

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01:03:59,990 --> 01:03:57,520
fondest memories

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i was thinking oh i'm sorry i'm sorry

1530
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but you know

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in in in telling the story on screen you

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know

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there had to be there had to be a sort

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of common thread and

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01:04:11,750 --> 01:04:09,520
the character being the journalist and

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asking the questions uh was the best way

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to

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point

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01:04:22,710 --> 01:04:19,839
of course of course um uh

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01:04:23,109 --> 01:04:22,720
now the other characters are all correct

1541
01:04:26,630 --> 01:04:23,119
well

1542
01:04:30,230 --> 01:04:26,640
and then you uh you go on screen

1543
01:04:33,430 --> 01:04:30,240
you know at the end and and and speak

1544
01:04:36,950 --> 01:04:33,440
about the journey and what this film

1545
01:04:37,349 --> 01:04:36,960
uh is and and things and i felt like it

1546
01:04:41,029 --> 01:04:37,359
was

1547
01:04:43,990 --> 01:04:41,039
a a point for you uh to

1548
01:04:45,029 --> 01:04:44,000
to speak about this publicly is that why

1549
01:04:48,230 --> 01:04:45,039
you chose to

1550
01:04:49,589 --> 01:04:48,240
appear at the end of the film yeah i i

1551
01:04:51,990 --> 01:04:49,599
you know the the

1552
01:04:53,990 --> 01:04:52,000
the most important message to come from

1553
01:04:55,670 --> 01:04:54,000
from the movie itself and i know it

1554
01:04:57,029 --> 01:04:55,680
ended up being a comedy is that the

1555
01:05:00,069 --> 01:04:57,039
original story is true

1556
01:05:03,510 --> 01:05:00,079
the you know the events of 1947 result

1557
01:05:05,109 --> 01:05:03,520
resulted in uh the footage that that we

1558
01:05:06,630 --> 01:05:05,119
were marketing at the time

1559
01:05:08,150 --> 01:05:06,640
uh or the reason for the marketing of

1560
01:05:11,750 --> 01:05:08,160
the footage at the time

1561
01:05:14,309 --> 01:05:11,760
and um you know i i wanted the

1562
01:05:16,069 --> 01:05:14,319
world to realize that i know that there

1563
01:05:17,750 --> 01:05:16,079
were debunkers out there and people that

1564
01:05:19,750 --> 01:05:17,760
just felt that the whole thing was that

1565
01:05:21,990 --> 01:05:19,760
was a hoax but

1566
01:05:23,430 --> 01:05:22,000
fundamentally the whole thing was true

1567
01:05:26,950 --> 01:05:23,440
well and that's because uh

1568
01:05:29,589 --> 01:05:26,960
you know for me uh your your

1569
01:05:31,910 --> 01:05:29,599
uh your audience isn't necessarily a

1570
01:05:32,870 --> 01:05:31,920
ufologist right this is a comedy film

1571
01:05:35,349 --> 01:05:32,880
right

1572
01:05:36,710 --> 01:05:35,359
yeah major release and they may not know

1573
01:05:39,349 --> 01:05:36,720
the story at all

1574
01:05:40,950 --> 01:05:39,359
they may not even know and then you come

1575
01:05:42,870 --> 01:05:40,960
in at the end and go well man this is

1576
01:05:44,630 --> 01:05:42,880
all real

1577
01:05:46,390 --> 01:05:44,640
this really you know the most bizarre

1578
01:05:49,190 --> 01:05:46,400
thing honestly the most bizarre thing

1579
01:05:51,029 --> 01:05:49,200
was getting the film back to the uk

1580
01:05:53,270 --> 01:05:51,039
having everyone sit down running the

1581
01:05:55,829 --> 01:05:53,280
film up and then realizing that

1582
01:05:57,430 --> 01:05:55,839
that most of the image had perished you

1583
01:05:59,750 --> 01:05:57,440
know in those two years

1584
01:06:00,950 --> 01:05:59,760
um and then you know the there was this

1585
01:06:03,910 --> 01:06:00,960
panic and this

1586
01:06:05,430 --> 01:06:03,920
this this sort of we scrabbled around to

1587
01:06:07,109 --> 01:06:05,440
try and work out what to do and then

1588
01:06:10,710 --> 01:06:07,119
came up with this wonderful

1589
01:06:12,870 --> 01:06:10,720
inspirational idea of restoring it um

1590
01:06:14,309 --> 01:06:12,880
and you know my argument is if you look

1591
01:06:16,710 --> 01:06:14,319
at all the major works

1592
01:06:18,470 --> 01:06:16,720
in paintings that are in galleries

1593
01:06:19,190 --> 01:06:18,480
around the world by leonardo da vinci

1594
01:06:20,549 --> 01:06:19,200
and so forth

1595
01:06:22,630 --> 01:06:20,559
you know very little of what you

1596
01:06:23,910 --> 01:06:22,640
actually see about image was created by

1597
01:06:25,670 --> 01:06:23,920
the original artist because it's been

1598
01:06:28,230 --> 01:06:25,680
painted over so many times

1599
01:06:29,109 --> 01:06:28,240
by people that have restored it so to

1600
01:06:32,230 --> 01:06:29,119
restore

1601
01:06:34,069 --> 01:06:32,240
film um in the way that we did it's not

1602
01:06:36,069 --> 01:06:34,079
something that hasn't been done before

1603
01:06:38,549 --> 01:06:36,079
in in on other formats

1604
01:06:39,190 --> 01:06:38,559
now there's uh a couple of other things

1605
01:06:41,910 --> 01:06:39,200
that

1606
01:06:42,470 --> 01:06:41,920
uh i need clarification i i find very

1607
01:06:45,510 --> 01:06:42,480
very

1608
01:06:48,390 --> 01:06:45,520
interesting you have said uh

1609
01:06:49,910 --> 01:06:48,400
over the years that this is a very short

1610
01:06:53,109 --> 01:06:49,920
part of the film

1611
01:06:56,630 --> 01:06:53,119
but there were uh scenes

1612
01:06:59,750 --> 01:06:56,640
of the crashed saucer

1613
01:07:02,950 --> 01:06:59,760
as well can you describe what you saw

1614
01:07:05,990 --> 01:07:02,960
in those scenes debris

1615
01:07:06,870 --> 01:07:06,000
um there was um there was rules of

1616
01:07:10,630 --> 01:07:06,880
debris

1617
01:07:13,829 --> 01:07:10,640
being collected being examined um

1618
01:07:15,829 --> 01:07:13,839
and there was one part of that that we

1619
01:07:19,190 --> 01:07:15,839
did include in the footage that was

1620
01:07:21,190 --> 01:07:19,200
marketed in 1995 um and we still

1621
01:07:22,390 --> 01:07:21,200
we still have we still have some of that

1622
01:07:26,470 --> 01:07:22,400
uh footage as well

1623
01:07:27,990 --> 01:07:26,480
but uh um it's not particularly uh

1624
01:07:30,150 --> 01:07:28,000
interesting because you can't really see

1625
01:07:32,470 --> 01:07:30,160
what the people are examining but

1626
01:07:34,309 --> 01:07:32,480
the the debris where you could see what

1627
01:07:37,510 --> 01:07:34,319
we thought were control panels or

1628
01:07:39,109 --> 01:07:37,520
what we could see were uh items that

1629
01:07:42,630 --> 01:07:39,119
were lit up within a tent

1630
01:07:44,870 --> 01:07:42,640
um uh that that was that was slightly

1631
01:07:46,230 --> 01:07:44,880
easier to determine and we did we did

1632
01:07:47,990 --> 01:07:46,240
market that at the same time

1633
01:07:49,510 --> 01:07:48,000
it's called the debris footage it was

1634
01:07:51,589 --> 01:07:49,520
put out at the same time as the alien

1635
01:07:55,190 --> 01:07:51,599
autopsy footage

1636
01:07:56,789 --> 01:07:55,200
the uh there were were there any uh i i

1637
01:08:01,109 --> 01:07:56,799
understand the crash debris

1638
01:08:02,710 --> 01:08:01,119
was there any structure to the the craft

1639
01:08:04,870 --> 01:08:02,720
was there anything that was more

1640
01:08:08,309 --> 01:08:04,880
complete

1641
01:08:10,309 --> 01:08:08,319
all we had were the medical examinations

1642
01:08:12,549 --> 01:08:10,319
and debris that those were the two

1643
01:08:16,870 --> 01:08:12,559
groups of film that we had

1644
01:08:20,149 --> 01:08:16,880
um there was other uh

1645
01:08:22,630 --> 01:08:20,159
footage of of just uh what's the best

1646
01:08:26,229 --> 01:08:22,640
way to describe it

1647
01:08:27,749 --> 01:08:26,239
military um and and and people talking

1648
01:08:30,309 --> 01:08:27,759
and so forth you can't hear them there's

1649
01:08:33,510 --> 01:08:30,319
no audio um so there was there was

1650
01:08:35,910 --> 01:08:33,520
there was random other shots uh which

1651
01:08:37,110 --> 01:08:35,920
meant very little to anyone uh which we

1652
01:08:40,630 --> 01:08:37,120
didn't use

1653
01:08:44,149 --> 01:08:40,640
now uh back to the control panels uh

1654
01:08:46,390 --> 01:08:44,159
and and i i i'm going off of memory now

1655
01:08:47,669 --> 01:08:46,400
were there two or was there one was

1656
01:08:50,950 --> 01:08:47,679
there two that was two

1657
01:08:54,309 --> 01:08:50,960
there was two now how accurate

1658
01:08:58,709 --> 01:08:54,319
um are are those

1659
01:09:05,749 --> 01:09:02,470
well there's what you what is in uh

1660
01:09:05,990 --> 01:09:05,759
your the original documentary and then

1661
01:09:11,829 --> 01:09:06,000
what

1662
01:09:13,829 --> 01:09:11,839
witnessed in the film i should say

1663
01:09:14,870 --> 01:09:13,839
you know how that's different that's a

1664
01:09:16,229 --> 01:09:14,880
different film as

1665
01:09:18,390 --> 01:09:16,239
their deadly film was also it was all

1666
01:09:21,510 --> 01:09:18,400
part of what was given to us at the time

1667
01:09:29,030 --> 01:09:24,630
as it is so you're saying that the

1668
01:09:31,189 --> 01:09:29,040
the debris footage is is original

1669
01:09:33,669 --> 01:09:31,199
the the the brief footage is original

1670
01:09:37,030 --> 01:09:33,679
yes oh i didn't know that

1671
01:09:39,510 --> 01:09:37,040
really yeah so that

1672
01:09:42,709 --> 01:09:39,520
the debris footage wasn't a recreation

1673
01:09:46,789 --> 01:09:45,030
yeah are you talking about the tent

1674
01:09:48,149 --> 01:09:46,799
footage the tent footage was not created

1675
01:09:50,870 --> 01:09:48,159
by us

1676
01:09:51,510 --> 01:09:50,880
that is from the original film reel from

1677
01:09:54,709 --> 01:09:51,520
the

1678
01:09:56,709 --> 01:09:54,719
cameraman in florida yeah that tent

1679
01:10:00,550 --> 01:09:56,719
footage had nothing to do with us

1680
01:10:03,590 --> 01:10:00,560
i did not know that i did not know that

1681
01:10:06,630 --> 01:10:03,600
so the the control panels that

1682
01:10:08,070 --> 01:10:06,640
we see right with the hand print

1683
01:10:09,830 --> 01:10:08,080
we actually to be honest we don't know

1684
01:10:10,709 --> 01:10:09,840
that they're control panels they were

1685
01:10:13,750 --> 01:10:10,719
just panels

1686
01:10:18,149 --> 01:10:13,760
you know with with um a

1687
01:10:22,870 --> 01:10:18,159
hand print um sort of markings on them

1688
01:10:24,310 --> 01:10:22,880
um people call them control panels

1689
01:10:26,470 --> 01:10:24,320
we can't say that they were control

1690
01:10:27,830 --> 01:10:26,480
panels we don't know right right right

1691
01:10:29,510 --> 01:10:27,840
no i didn't know that that was from the

1692
01:10:31,110 --> 01:10:29,520
original i did not know i thought that

1693
01:10:35,430 --> 01:10:31,120
that was recreation too

1694
01:10:37,990 --> 01:10:35,440
as well so then the i-beam

1695
01:10:39,750 --> 01:10:38,000
it wasn't recreated by you the i-beam

1696
01:10:41,110 --> 01:10:39,760
shot with the hieroglyphics on the

1697
01:10:45,430 --> 01:10:41,120
inside

1698
01:10:49,910 --> 01:10:45,440
that is from an original piece of film

1699
01:10:53,350 --> 01:10:49,920
yes no kidding

1700
01:10:54,630 --> 01:10:53,360
huh but there's there's hieroglyphics on

1701
01:10:56,630 --> 01:10:54,640
on on there or

1702
01:10:58,550 --> 01:10:56,640
markings on there yeah that's what uh

1703
01:11:01,830 --> 01:10:58,560
that's what i just mentioned that

1704
01:11:02,470 --> 01:11:01,840
which has been subject to debate over

1705
01:11:04,550 --> 01:11:02,480
the years

1706
01:11:05,830 --> 01:11:04,560
yes certainly certainly it's been 25

1707
01:11:08,470 --> 01:11:05,840
years uh

1708
01:11:10,149 --> 01:11:08,480
probably since uh i've seen those

1709
01:11:13,270 --> 01:11:10,159
sections of the film

1710
01:11:14,229 --> 01:11:13,280
um now uh the next what are you going to

1711
01:11:17,270 --> 01:11:14,239
do

1712
01:11:18,950 --> 01:11:17,280
with the remaining frames

1713
01:11:21,590 --> 01:11:18,960
nothing i'm not going to do anything

1714
01:11:24,870 --> 01:11:21,600
with them um part of the

1715
01:11:27,990 --> 01:11:24,880
auction at the moment is our

1716
01:11:31,750 --> 01:11:28,000
confirmation uh that um that

1717
01:11:34,870 --> 01:11:31,760
the no other uh tokens will be minted um

1718
01:11:36,550 --> 01:11:34,880
so whoever purchases the frame that's

1719
01:11:39,669 --> 01:11:36,560
currently up for auction that that's

1720
01:11:42,310 --> 01:11:39,679
a one-off um

1721
01:11:43,270 --> 01:11:42,320
we will not market the the uh the

1722
01:11:47,750 --> 01:11:43,280
remaining

1723
01:11:50,550 --> 01:11:47,760
frames from the same section of film

1724
01:11:52,630 --> 01:11:50,560
are they from uh different scenes

1725
01:11:54,790 --> 01:11:52,640
they're from different scenes

1726
01:11:56,070 --> 01:11:54,800
and what time can you tell me what they

1727
01:11:58,310 --> 01:11:56,080
show

1728
01:12:00,790 --> 01:11:58,320
i'm i'm i'm you've got my you've got my

1729
01:12:03,430 --> 01:12:00,800
attention right now right

1730
01:12:05,510 --> 01:12:03,440
well what's in the other frame the 20

1731
01:12:08,950 --> 01:12:05,520
the 20 minutes of

1732
01:12:11,669 --> 01:12:08,960
of the footage that was marketed shows

1733
01:12:13,430 --> 01:12:11,679
the dissection of the of the creature at

1734
01:12:15,430 --> 01:12:13,440
various different stages and

1735
01:12:16,630 --> 01:12:15,440
you know and we've got odd frames here

1736
01:12:19,590 --> 01:12:16,640
and there from from

1737
01:12:20,950 --> 01:12:19,600
the whole 20 minutes if you like so you

1738
01:12:22,070 --> 01:12:20,960
know there's a little bit of everything

1739
01:12:24,310 --> 01:12:22,080
everywhere

1740
01:12:25,270 --> 01:12:24,320
if that makes sense well are we talking

1741
01:12:27,110 --> 01:12:25,280
are we talking

1742
01:12:28,950 --> 01:12:27,120
the reason the reason we the reason we

1743
01:12:31,030 --> 01:12:28,960
went with the the frame that

1744
01:12:33,510 --> 01:12:31,040
is currently uh being marketed is

1745
01:12:37,110 --> 01:12:33,520
because it shows the complete creature

1746
01:12:38,149 --> 01:12:37,120
right um and the other frames the other

1747
01:12:41,430 --> 01:12:38,159
frames are perished

1748
01:12:43,110 --> 01:12:41,440
to a certain degree and and there's

1749
01:12:45,030 --> 01:12:43,120
there's not the same clarity as there is

1750
01:12:46,149 --> 01:12:45,040
in that one frame that one frame is the

1751
01:12:48,790 --> 01:12:46,159
single best frame

1752
01:12:49,430 --> 01:12:48,800
of what's remaining oh that explains it

1753
01:12:52,390 --> 01:12:49,440
okay that's

1754
01:12:53,030 --> 01:12:52,400
uh and the other frames are are there

1755
01:12:56,630 --> 01:12:53,040
are there

1756
01:12:57,110 --> 01:12:56,640
series of frame it's not single frames

1757
01:12:59,590 --> 01:12:57,120
when you

1758
01:13:02,070 --> 01:12:59,600
you say frames do you have like 10 or 20

1759
01:13:05,110 --> 01:13:02,080
that are continuous

1760
01:13:09,270 --> 01:13:05,120
um there are there are but they're

1761
01:13:12,950 --> 01:13:09,280
they're in a really very poor state of

1762
01:13:15,830 --> 01:13:12,960
of of of disrepair i mean they

1763
01:13:17,830 --> 01:13:15,840
the the that single frame that's being

1764
01:13:18,870 --> 01:13:17,840
marketed at the moment is the is the

1765
01:13:21,030 --> 01:13:18,880
clearest

1766
01:13:22,470 --> 01:13:21,040
um yes there are there are other frames

1767
01:13:24,630 --> 01:13:22,480
where you uh

1768
01:13:25,830 --> 01:13:24,640
which run into each other um as they do

1769
01:13:27,990 --> 01:13:25,840
with footage but

1770
01:13:29,110 --> 01:13:28,000
a lot of it is washed out a lot of it

1771
01:13:32,310 --> 01:13:29,120
has been

1772
01:13:32,630 --> 01:13:32,320
some of it's been pilled um so there's

1773
01:13:35,830 --> 01:13:32,640
only

1774
01:13:36,149 --> 01:13:35,840
one side of it that has image left on it

1775
01:13:39,270 --> 01:13:36,159
that

1776
01:13:41,830 --> 01:13:39,280
moment is

1777
01:13:43,669 --> 01:13:41,840
complete um you know it's a frame that

1778
01:13:45,910 --> 01:13:43,679
has all the information

1779
01:13:47,350 --> 01:13:45,920
so anyone that's uh that's particularly

1780
01:13:48,310 --> 01:13:47,360
interested or a collector can look at

1781
01:13:50,149 --> 01:13:48,320
that frame and

1782
01:13:51,350 --> 01:13:50,159
and it has all the information in that

1783
01:13:55,669 --> 01:13:51,360
one frame

1784
01:13:58,070 --> 01:13:55,679
um that that that allowed us to make the

1785
01:13:59,110 --> 01:13:58,080
the film that we did how often do you

1786
01:14:02,390 --> 01:13:59,120
take the frames out

1787
01:14:02,709 --> 01:14:02,400
and look at them i hadn't looked at them

1788
01:14:06,149 --> 01:14:02,719
in

1789
01:14:10,390 --> 01:14:06,159
pulled them out

1790
01:14:14,790 --> 01:14:10,400
that we did

1791
01:14:17,910 --> 01:14:14,800
with a british production company

1792
01:14:20,709 --> 01:14:17,920
uh five or six years ago um and

1793
01:14:21,189 --> 01:14:20,719
um and i pulled it out again um for this

1794
01:14:24,790 --> 01:14:21,199
auction

1795
01:14:27,590 --> 01:14:24,800
that's it now with all of the nft

1796
01:14:28,550 --> 01:14:27,600
media uh action that is going on right

1797
01:14:31,830 --> 01:14:28,560
now

1798
01:14:34,870 --> 01:14:31,840
this is certainly uh in in three days

1799
01:14:38,149 --> 01:14:34,880
once uh the auction closes this

1800
01:14:40,550 --> 01:14:38,159
is going to be another whirlwind

1801
01:14:43,110 --> 01:14:40,560
um i i appreciate and thank you for

1802
01:14:46,790 --> 01:14:43,120
coming on the show tonight i i i feel

1803
01:14:49,910 --> 01:14:46,800
privileged and honored that we are are

1804
01:14:50,390 --> 01:14:49,920
among the first yeah but are you are you

1805
01:14:53,430 --> 01:14:50,400
ready

1806
01:14:55,270 --> 01:14:53,440
over the next month

1807
01:14:59,270 --> 01:14:55,280
ah i just think i've switched my phone

1808
01:15:02,790 --> 01:15:01,590
it's it's it's it's gonna be crazy and

1809
01:15:04,149 --> 01:15:02,800
there's gonna be a lot of people

1810
01:15:04,709 --> 01:15:04,159
listening to this right now you know

1811
01:15:08,470 --> 01:15:04,719
what

1812
01:15:10,229 --> 01:15:08,480
um once this film um is once the auction

1813
01:15:11,750 --> 01:15:10,239
is completed and someone takes over the

1814
01:15:13,910 --> 01:15:11,760
text for the frame

1815
01:15:16,229 --> 01:15:13,920
they then have all the information

1816
01:15:18,390 --> 01:15:16,239
there's nothing more i can say or do

1817
01:15:19,350 --> 01:15:18,400
there's no new information i can offer

1818
01:15:21,910 --> 01:15:19,360
anyone once

1819
01:15:24,390 --> 01:15:21,920
once the new owner has that frame you

1820
01:15:26,870 --> 01:15:24,400
know they take over the project really

1821
01:15:28,390 --> 01:15:26,880
um and then you know they'll either

1822
01:15:30,709 --> 01:15:28,400
stick it up on the wall

1823
01:15:32,070 --> 01:15:30,719
and frame it as a collectible um or they

1824
01:15:34,630 --> 01:15:32,080
can examine it and

1825
01:15:36,229 --> 01:15:34,640
and and go down a more scientific route

1826
01:15:37,350 --> 01:15:36,239
and see if i can get anything else from

1827
01:15:40,870 --> 01:15:37,360
the frame

1828
01:15:44,630 --> 01:15:40,880
did uh did the cia did any agencies

1829
01:15:48,390 --> 01:15:44,640
uh uh reach out to you back in the day

1830
01:15:51,590 --> 01:15:48,400
oh honestly in 1995

1831
01:15:52,550 --> 01:15:51,600
we had delegations from just about every

1832
01:15:54,790 --> 01:15:52,560
uh

1833
01:15:57,270 --> 01:15:54,800
country in the western world come over

1834
01:15:59,030 --> 01:15:57,280
to our offices

1835
01:16:00,390 --> 01:15:59,040
view the film we were flown out to

1836
01:16:03,510 --> 01:16:00,400
different countries to

1837
01:16:06,070 --> 01:16:03,520
to show the film uh to

1838
01:16:07,669 --> 01:16:06,080
military and and to their equipment of

1839
01:16:10,790 --> 01:16:07,679
secret service i mean

1840
01:16:13,189 --> 01:16:10,800
you know we had an amazing time in 95

1841
01:16:14,709 --> 01:16:13,199
um i mean even you know flying out to

1842
01:16:18,470 --> 01:16:14,719
the states as well

1843
01:16:20,229 --> 01:16:18,480
um to to show the film to

1844
01:16:21,830 --> 01:16:20,239
what we believe to be at the time you

1845
01:16:24,950 --> 01:16:21,840
know their

1846
01:16:27,750 --> 01:16:24,960
sort of secret service if you want um

1847
01:16:29,590 --> 01:16:27,760
we we had an amazing time with that film

1848
01:16:30,950 --> 01:16:29,600
i mean even the chinese that came over

1849
01:16:33,430 --> 01:16:30,960
to view the film

1850
01:16:35,030 --> 01:16:33,440
um and it's a scientific delegation had

1851
01:16:36,310 --> 01:16:35,040
said they had seen something very

1852
01:16:38,390 --> 01:16:36,320
similar themselves

1853
01:16:40,149 --> 01:16:38,400
and they said it was the americans that

1854
01:16:41,669 --> 01:16:40,159
that had had shown them what they had

1855
01:16:43,430 --> 01:16:41,679
but there was an exchange of information

1856
01:16:45,669 --> 01:16:43,440
that took place in the 50s

1857
01:16:47,270 --> 01:16:45,679
and they and you know they confirmed

1858
01:16:48,709 --> 01:16:47,280
that they had seen the film

1859
01:16:51,430 --> 01:16:48,719
so there was a lot of stuff that went on

1860
01:16:54,870 --> 01:16:51,440
in 95. and and what about now

1861
01:16:57,430 --> 01:16:54,880
in in in in you know more recent

1862
01:16:59,350 --> 01:16:57,440
uh history no not no one has reached out

1863
01:17:00,709 --> 01:16:59,360
at the moment

1864
01:17:02,390 --> 01:17:00,719
as far as most people are concerned the

1865
01:17:05,110 --> 01:17:02,400
subject is over right

1866
01:17:06,390 --> 01:17:05,120
and and and certainly what is going on

1867
01:17:08,870 --> 01:17:06,400
now right we have

1868
01:17:10,790 --> 01:17:08,880
the uap task force we have the united

1869
01:17:13,750 --> 01:17:10,800
states senate we've got the navy

1870
01:17:16,950 --> 01:17:13,760
we've got leaked videos and images and

1871
01:17:18,390 --> 01:17:16,960
uaps and

1872
01:17:20,070 --> 01:17:18,400
if you look at what's been released in

1873
01:17:23,669 --> 01:17:20,080
the last year and a half

1874
01:17:26,630 --> 01:17:23,679
um there can be no doubt at all that

1875
01:17:28,310 --> 01:17:26,640
there are ufos that we have been visited

1876
01:17:30,390 --> 01:17:28,320
um it's beyond doubt i mean you look at

1877
01:17:33,270 --> 01:17:30,400
that navy footage um

1878
01:17:35,590 --> 01:17:33,280
the the virgin virgin airlines footage

1879
01:17:36,310 --> 01:17:35,600
uh recordings as well i mean there is no

1880
01:17:38,950 --> 01:17:36,320
doubt

1881
01:17:40,310 --> 01:17:38,960
that that stuff has been going on for

1882
01:17:42,630 --> 01:17:40,320
years and years and years

1883
01:17:43,990 --> 01:17:42,640
i mean i personally believe that all the

1884
01:17:46,229 --> 01:17:44,000
technology that we enjoy

1885
01:17:47,990 --> 01:17:46,239
today all the digital technology was

1886
01:17:49,270 --> 01:17:48,000
backward engineered from what came out

1887
01:17:52,229 --> 01:17:49,280
of 1947

1888
01:17:54,470 --> 01:17:52,239
so you know you look at the the graft of

1889
01:17:56,390 --> 01:17:54,480
human human development and how it's all

1890
01:17:58,229 --> 01:17:56,400
just exploded in the last 50 years

1891
01:17:58,709 --> 01:17:58,239
there's no rational explanation for it

1892
01:18:00,870 --> 01:17:58,719
unless

1893
01:18:02,149 --> 01:18:00,880
there was some intervention from you

1894
01:18:03,830 --> 01:18:02,159
know people that had

1895
01:18:05,510 --> 01:18:03,840
you know high degree of technology than

1896
01:18:06,709 --> 01:18:05,520
us tonight i think that everything we

1897
01:18:09,350 --> 01:18:06,719
enjoy today

1898
01:18:10,149 --> 01:18:09,360
in terms of you know technology has come

1899
01:18:12,310 --> 01:18:10,159
from

1900
01:18:13,270 --> 01:18:12,320
um 1947 i think that's where it all

1901
01:18:15,430 --> 01:18:13,280
kicked off

1902
01:18:16,630 --> 01:18:15,440
well and there's another aspect to this

1903
01:18:18,070 --> 01:18:16,640
now you're uh

1904
01:18:20,390 --> 01:18:18,080
you know you're part of the ufo

1905
01:18:21,510 --> 01:18:20,400
community and you certainly had some

1906
01:18:23,750 --> 01:18:21,520
time to

1907
01:18:24,950 --> 01:18:23,760
uh do a little bit of research and and

1908
01:18:27,430 --> 01:18:24,960
look at things

1909
01:18:28,950 --> 01:18:27,440
one of the things that historically has

1910
01:18:30,870 --> 01:18:28,960
been presented

1911
01:18:32,550 --> 01:18:30,880
is that the world cannot handle the

1912
01:18:34,229 --> 01:18:32,560
truth when it comes to ufos

1913
01:18:36,390 --> 01:18:34,239
right we can't handle the truth

1914
01:18:37,990 --> 01:18:36,400
religions will collapse we can i think

1915
01:18:39,590 --> 01:18:38,000
governments can't but i think

1916
01:18:41,350 --> 01:18:39,600
i think the public can well don't you

1917
01:18:43,430 --> 01:18:41,360
think the proof of uh the

1918
01:18:44,950 --> 01:18:43,440
release of the alien autopsy film and

1919
01:18:47,669 --> 01:18:44,960
fox and live

1920
01:18:48,470 --> 01:18:47,679
and the video uh the world didn't

1921
01:18:51,830 --> 01:18:48,480
collapse

1922
01:18:53,430 --> 01:18:51,840
did it no no not at all i think it's

1923
01:18:54,070 --> 01:18:53,440
governments that are concerned i mean

1924
01:18:57,030 --> 01:18:54,080
you know they're

1925
01:18:57,350 --> 01:18:57,040
very secretive about their technology um

1926
01:19:01,030 --> 01:18:57,360
and

1927
01:19:02,149 --> 01:19:01,040
have an appetite for it they'd like to

1928
01:19:04,070 --> 01:19:02,159
know what's going on

1929
01:19:05,910 --> 01:19:04,080
and actually i don't see any reason to

1930
01:19:08,070 --> 01:19:05,920
hide it

1931
01:19:09,990 --> 01:19:08,080
we're in very strange times it's

1932
01:19:11,430 --> 01:19:10,000
exciting i've been doing this show for a

1933
01:19:14,630 --> 01:19:11,440
long time

1934
01:19:15,270 --> 01:19:14,640
and uh i've never experienced what is

1935
01:19:19,030 --> 01:19:15,280
going on

1936
01:19:22,070 --> 01:19:19,040
right now except for maybe 1995 with you

1937
01:19:23,830 --> 01:19:22,080
it was pretty exciting pentagon are

1938
01:19:26,630 --> 01:19:23,840
going to release papers they've said

1939
01:19:27,830 --> 01:19:26,640
uh in the next few months which i think

1940
01:19:29,590 --> 01:19:27,840
is going to be exciting

1941
01:19:30,950 --> 01:19:29,600
we'll see we'll see if they don't kick

1942
01:19:32,550 --> 01:19:30,960
the can down the road

1943
01:19:35,030 --> 01:19:32,560
you know once again and ask for more

1944
01:19:36,390 --> 01:19:35,040
time but uh now i want to go back to one

1945
01:19:40,630 --> 01:19:36,400
last point

1946
01:19:41,750 --> 01:19:40,640
um kit green said that he saw these

1947
01:19:44,870 --> 01:19:41,760
images

1948
01:19:48,390 --> 01:19:44,880
your pilot or pilot your cameraman

1949
01:19:51,750 --> 01:19:48,400
has the film and canisters in florida

1950
01:19:55,350 --> 01:19:51,760
sealed up so what kit saw wasn't

1951
01:19:58,310 --> 01:19:55,360
that pilot's film but what kit saw

1952
01:19:59,350 --> 01:19:58,320
could have been copies of that pilot's

1953
01:20:05,910 --> 01:19:59,360
film

1954
01:20:09,030 --> 01:20:05,920
exist elsewhere uh uh within

1955
01:20:10,390 --> 01:20:09,040
uh the department of defense well i i'm

1956
01:20:13,189 --> 01:20:10,400
not saying that the the

1957
01:20:13,750 --> 01:20:13,199
that what we have um was the only film

1958
01:20:16,470 --> 01:20:13,760
that was

1959
01:20:17,669 --> 01:20:16,480
shot at the time i mean we you know it's

1960
01:20:20,070 --> 01:20:17,679
quite possible that

1961
01:20:22,070 --> 01:20:20,080
that there was more than one cameraman

1962
01:20:24,149 --> 01:20:22,080
there at the time but and it's quite

1963
01:20:25,590 --> 01:20:24,159
possible there were copies at the time

1964
01:20:29,030 --> 01:20:25,600
um certainly

1965
01:20:32,149 --> 01:20:29,040
uh the footage um had been seen by

1966
01:20:34,470 --> 01:20:32,159
lots of people during the 50s and 60s um

1967
01:20:36,790 --> 01:20:34,480
and and so we don't have the only copy

1968
01:20:39,270 --> 01:20:36,800
and we of of that imagery that

1969
01:20:40,870 --> 01:20:39,280
there's it sits in government

1970
01:20:42,629 --> 01:20:40,880
departments

1971
01:20:44,390 --> 01:20:42,639
probably across the world in one form or

1972
01:20:46,070 --> 01:20:44,400
another including like what

1973
01:20:47,830 --> 01:20:46,080
you know when the chinese say they saw

1974
01:20:49,750 --> 01:20:47,840
something similar the chinese have

1975
01:20:51,030 --> 01:20:49,760
already said they had seen it themselves

1976
01:20:51,990 --> 01:20:51,040
i mean we sat there and we were

1977
01:20:53,270 --> 01:20:52,000
astonished and we

1978
01:20:55,030 --> 01:20:53,280
thought well we have it how could you

1979
01:20:57,189 --> 01:20:55,040
have seen that but they had seen that

1980
01:20:58,830 --> 01:20:57,199
so there's there was obviously other

1981
01:21:01,510 --> 01:20:58,840
copies or similar

1982
01:21:01,910 --> 01:21:01,520
uh film maybe another cameraman at the

1983
01:21:05,750 --> 01:21:01,920
time

1984
01:21:08,870 --> 01:21:05,760
i don't know well okay what's next

1985
01:21:12,629 --> 01:21:08,880
i mean ar is this is this the final

1986
01:21:15,510 --> 01:21:12,639
volley for you or

1987
01:21:15,990 --> 01:21:15,520
this is it the nft is the final is the

1988
01:21:19,030 --> 01:21:16,000
final

1989
01:21:21,510 --> 01:21:19,040
roll of the dice and and we will not

1990
01:21:22,709 --> 01:21:21,520
go back and visit the subject after that

1991
01:21:24,629 --> 01:21:22,719
yeah ray

1992
01:21:26,629 --> 01:21:24,639
seriously i want to thank you for uh

1993
01:21:28,390 --> 01:21:26,639
taking the time i know it's very early

1994
01:21:31,270 --> 01:21:28,400
over there and this was

1995
01:21:33,910 --> 01:21:31,280
uh put together rather quickly but you

1996
01:21:36,310 --> 01:21:33,920
you're very generous with your time

1997
01:21:37,430 --> 01:21:36,320
and uh this is going to be a crazy

1998
01:21:39,830 --> 01:21:37,440
three-day

1999
01:21:40,709 --> 01:21:39,840
uh ride for you it was already crazy

2000
01:21:42,629 --> 01:21:40,719
three days

2001
01:21:43,990 --> 01:21:42,639
now you've gotta you gotta wash rinse

2002
01:21:45,990 --> 01:21:44,000
and repeat and do it all over

2003
01:21:47,110 --> 01:21:46,000
again as i said the site the site

2004
01:21:49,590 --> 01:21:47,120
crashed last night

2005
01:21:50,229 --> 01:21:49,600
um and wearable which is the number one

2006
01:21:51,910 --> 01:21:50,239
nft

2007
01:21:53,910 --> 01:21:51,920
site you know it's the first time it's

2008
01:21:55,430 --> 01:21:53,920
happened it's just bizarre the whole

2009
01:21:57,590 --> 01:21:55,440
thing is bizarre

2010
01:21:58,870 --> 01:21:57,600
well as i said you couldn't make it up

2011
01:22:02,229 --> 01:21:58,880
as if someone has actually

2012
01:22:04,470 --> 01:22:02,239
targeted it well i would like to uh uh

2013
01:22:05,430 --> 01:22:04,480
have you on the show again we'll give it

2014
01:22:08,229 --> 01:22:05,440
six months

2015
01:22:10,390 --> 01:22:08,239
but any time i would i would really

2016
01:22:13,189 --> 01:22:10,400
enjoy it and uh we'll go into other

2017
01:22:15,990 --> 01:22:13,199
areas and uh we'll do a full show but uh

2018
01:22:16,950 --> 01:22:16,000
for now thank you so much ray if you're

2019
01:22:19,750 --> 01:22:16,960
ever in london

2020
01:22:21,110 --> 01:22:19,760
you know come by and you can you can

2021
01:22:22,709 --> 01:22:21,120
have a look at some of the other

2022
01:22:24,550 --> 01:22:22,719
some of the other material hanging

2023
01:22:26,709 --> 01:22:24,560
around i am going to be

2024
01:22:28,709 --> 01:22:26,719
over in london i was supposed to be

2025
01:22:31,350 --> 01:22:28,719
there in 2020 hosting

2026
01:22:32,550 --> 01:22:31,360
uh the big uh european convention up in

2027
01:22:34,470 --> 01:22:32,560
manchester

2028
01:22:36,310 --> 01:22:34,480
and obviously we know what happened

2029
01:22:39,510 --> 01:22:36,320
right but i will be

2030
01:22:42,550 --> 01:22:39,520
i will be over there uh very soon so

2031
01:22:44,470 --> 01:22:42,560
i will take you up on your invitation

2032
01:22:45,990 --> 01:22:44,480
thank you so much ray enjoy the rest of

2033
01:22:47,669 --> 01:22:46,000
your day thank you so much

2034
01:22:50,390 --> 01:22:47,679
all right thank you very much bye-bye

2035
01:22:54,950 --> 01:22:50,400
bye-bye ray santilli

2036
01:22:57,750 --> 01:22:54,960
there you have it it is wearable.com

2037
01:22:59,510 --> 01:22:57,760
uh you can go and look at the auction

2038
01:23:01,110 --> 01:22:59,520
yourself you can go put in a bid

2039
01:23:02,790 --> 01:23:01,120
uh somebody just said with all of the

2040
01:23:03,750 --> 01:23:02,800
fade or not so if we put in a five

2041
01:23:05,990 --> 01:23:03,760
dollars each

2042
01:23:08,149 --> 01:23:06,000
we could come up with five mil yeah

2043
01:23:09,110 --> 01:23:08,159
that's uh that's probably a a pretty

2044
01:23:11,350 --> 01:23:09,120
good idea

2045
01:23:13,750 --> 01:23:11,360
but uh thank you so much ray uh that was

2046
01:23:16,310 --> 01:23:13,760
uh an amazing conversation

2047
01:23:17,030 --> 01:23:16,320
and exclusive right here tonight on fade

2048
01:23:19,110 --> 01:23:17,040
to black

2049
01:23:20,709 --> 01:23:19,120
in front of all of the other media that

2050
01:23:22,550 --> 01:23:20,719
is about to explode

2051
01:23:24,390 --> 01:23:22,560
uh with race and tilly and i do want to

2052
01:23:25,990 --> 01:23:24,400
thank dave altman dave you are the very

2053
01:23:29,350 --> 01:23:26,000
best thank you so much

2054
01:23:31,350 --> 01:23:29,360
and i am going to take a quick break and

2055
01:23:32,790 --> 01:23:31,360
uh open up the phone lines because it's

2056
01:23:35,430 --> 01:23:32,800
thursday night

2057
01:23:36,709 --> 01:23:35,440
finally it's fader night thank you ray

2058
01:23:38,229 --> 01:23:36,719
santilli

2059
01:23:39,830 --> 01:23:38,239
i am your host jimmy church we'll be

2060
01:23:49,140 --> 01:23:39,840
right back after this short break

2061
01:23:59,510 --> 01:23:49,150
with your phone call stay with me

2062
01:24:05,750 --> 01:24:02,629
way out here we listen to jimmy church

2063
01:24:07,590 --> 01:24:05,760
you're listening to fade to black

2064
01:24:09,669 --> 01:24:07,600
always on the edge of the hottest

2065
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alternative talk jimmy church

2066
01:24:27,590 --> 01:24:16,200
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2067
01:24:31,669 --> 01:24:29,669
do you want to be an official fate or

2068
01:24:33,750 --> 01:24:31,679
not of course you do

2069
01:24:35,270 --> 01:24:33,760
this is jimmy churchill fade to black

2070
01:24:39,030 --> 01:24:35,280
just go to our membership

2071
01:24:41,270 --> 01:24:39,040
section at jimmychurchradio.com

2072
01:24:43,110 --> 01:24:41,280
this is jimmy church and i'll be at the

2073
01:24:46,310 --> 01:24:43,120
ufo megacon this june

2074
01:24:47,110 --> 01:24:46,320
6th through the 12th 2021 in laughlin

2075
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2076
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the laughlin ufo megacon is unique it's

2077
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2078
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2079
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the laughlin ufo mega conference

2080
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specializes in bringing you new people

2081
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2082
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all of this

2083
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is offered at prices so low you can

2084
01:25:11,030 --> 01:25:07,920
actually afford to be there

2085
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for instance seven night hotel packages

2086
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2087
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2088
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2089
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2090
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from being with all of us

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2097
01:25:47,590 --> 01:25:45,750
fader knots when you think about the

2098
01:25:49,510 --> 01:25:47,600
future of our country and where we're

2099
01:25:50,390 --> 01:25:49,520
headed do you wonder about the food

2100
01:25:54,629 --> 01:25:50,400
supply

2101
01:25:56,709 --> 01:25:54,639
chain could be disastrous

2102
01:25:58,950 --> 01:25:56,719
and they usually occur with little

2103
01:26:01,030 --> 01:25:58,960
warning that's why the smartest thing

2104
01:26:02,550 --> 01:26:01,040
you can do today is to stockpile

2105
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2106
01:26:06,229 --> 01:26:05,600
water and other essentials i personally

2107
01:26:08,790 --> 01:26:06,239
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2108
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2109
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2111
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than a decade

2112
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in fact they're the only source my

2113
01:26:21,189 --> 01:26:18,159
family trusts for

2114
01:26:24,310 --> 01:26:21,199
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2116
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2117
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2118
01:26:36,390 --> 01:26:33,360
doesn't it especially now so go to

2119
01:26:39,669 --> 01:26:36,400
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2120
01:26:40,950 --> 01:26:39,679
that's prepare with jimmy.com there's no

2121
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time to lose

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2136
01:27:19,910 --> 01:27:18,000
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2137
01:27:23,030 --> 01:27:19,920
and so does the cia

2138
01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:28,070
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2139
01:27:34,870 --> 01:27:30,070
you are listening to fade to black with

2140
01:27:38,470 --> 01:27:37,189
oh hi i'm reese vance you're listening

2141
01:27:41,590 --> 01:27:38,480
to jimmy church

2142
01:27:42,950 --> 01:27:41,600
this is revolution the revolution will

2143
01:27:50,150 --> 01:27:42,960
not be televised

2144
01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:58,830
[Music]

2145
01:28:25,070 --> 01:28:00,940
ciao

2146
01:28:31,990 --> 01:28:30,470
[Music]

2147
01:28:33,669 --> 01:28:32,000
welcome back fade to black i am your

2148
01:28:36,070 --> 01:28:33,679
host jimmy church

2149
01:28:37,510 --> 01:28:36,080
hanging out in youtube giving people the

2150
01:28:40,870 --> 01:28:37,520
axe i got the power

2151
01:28:44,470 --> 01:28:40,880
i can click i can click

2152
01:28:47,590 --> 01:28:44,480
out of here no bad words man clean it up

2153
01:28:49,189 --> 01:28:47,600
clean it up kids are here

2154
01:28:52,310 --> 01:28:49,199
they see that stuff come on man be an

2155
01:28:57,189 --> 01:28:52,320
adult and if you can't handle it

2156
01:29:00,470 --> 01:28:57,199
out bill i'm giving you i'm giving you

2157
01:29:03,940 --> 01:29:00,480
i'm giving you the permission bad words

2158
01:29:09,189 --> 01:29:03,950
out out come on be an adult

2159
01:29:11,030 --> 01:29:09,199
[Laughter]

2160
01:29:12,390 --> 01:29:11,040
it's fun it's fun man i love the power

2161
01:29:13,990 --> 01:29:12,400
of the mouse man

2162
01:29:16,070 --> 01:29:14,000
i love the power of the mouse all right

2163
01:29:16,390 --> 01:29:16,080
bill um handing the reins back over to

2164
01:29:18,070 --> 01:29:16,400
you

2165
01:29:19,990 --> 01:29:18,080
want to thank ray santilli that was

2166
01:29:23,430 --> 01:29:20,000
absolutely amazing

2167
01:29:25,510 --> 01:29:23,440
uh wow and if you think about it

2168
01:29:28,149 --> 01:29:25,520
look obviously i've been very critical

2169
01:29:31,189 --> 01:29:28,159
of the alien autopsy the film

2170
01:29:32,790 --> 01:29:31,199
uh from 1995

2171
01:29:34,709 --> 01:29:32,800
because i thought it was going to be you

2172
01:29:36,709 --> 01:29:34,719
know the actual thing then you know you

2173
01:29:39,830 --> 01:29:36,719
find out it's a recreation and

2174
01:29:40,709 --> 01:29:39,840
and stuff a big disappointment uh with

2175
01:29:45,750 --> 01:29:40,719
that

2176
01:29:47,910 --> 01:29:45,760
go through what he went through and

2177
01:29:50,149 --> 01:29:47,920
there was the original film and

2178
01:29:51,030 --> 01:29:50,159
and there were original frames from the

2179
01:29:54,390 --> 01:29:51,040
film

2180
01:29:57,830 --> 01:29:54,400
in the recreation and

2181
01:29:59,990 --> 01:29:57,840
and and everything else so um

2182
01:30:02,310 --> 01:30:00,000
ray has an incredible story to tell an

2183
01:30:04,149 --> 01:30:02,320
incredible life that he has lived

2184
01:30:05,350 --> 01:30:04,159
and uh very important to the ufo

2185
01:30:09,270 --> 01:30:05,360
community

2186
01:30:11,910 --> 01:30:09,280
and to finally have him on the show uh

2187
01:30:13,270 --> 01:30:11,920
there you go just absolutely amazing and

2188
01:30:16,470 --> 01:30:13,280
again

2189
01:30:19,590 --> 01:30:16,480
uh dave thank you so much uh

2190
01:30:23,030 --> 01:30:19,600
i know that uh there's a lot of media uh

2191
01:30:26,950 --> 01:30:23,040
approaching rey and and and things

2192
01:30:29,030 --> 01:30:26,960
but uh for for ray to

2193
01:30:30,310 --> 01:30:29,040
to come on the show and and do this

2194
01:30:32,070 --> 01:30:30,320
right now is just

2195
01:30:34,790 --> 01:30:32,080
it's an honor and a privilege and that

2196
01:30:37,910 --> 01:30:34,800
was really cool and you guys are spoiled

2197
01:30:40,870 --> 01:30:37,920
rotten it's all i gotta say all right

2198
01:30:42,229 --> 01:30:40,880
yeah try scale you're out i do if i see

2199
01:30:45,990 --> 01:30:42,239
bad language

2200
01:30:47,270 --> 01:30:46,000
i don't care in twitter or facebook or

2201
01:30:50,390 --> 01:30:47,280
youtube

2202
01:30:51,910 --> 01:30:50,400
you know i i i i just don't have time

2203
01:30:52,149 --> 01:30:51,920
for it i don't care i don't care what it

2204
01:30:54,950 --> 01:30:52,159
is

2205
01:30:55,830 --> 01:30:54,960
it could be somebody trying to be funny

2206
01:30:58,870 --> 01:30:55,840
i just

2207
01:31:02,420 --> 01:30:58,880
that's it blocked it mute debt

2208
01:31:04,550 --> 01:31:02,430
dude hide ban banish

2209
01:31:06,390 --> 01:31:04,560
[Laughter]

2210
01:31:07,990 --> 01:31:06,400
i just do it in the second man i did i

2211
01:31:09,030 --> 01:31:08,000
love it man i love the power of the

2212
01:31:13,430 --> 01:31:09,040
mouse

2213
01:31:15,750 --> 01:31:13,440
it enables me to have uh a pure mind

2214
01:31:17,910 --> 01:31:15,760
the mouse i just know that in a second i

2215
01:31:21,430 --> 01:31:17,920
can go

2216
01:31:26,229 --> 01:31:24,070
all right seven four seven two two eight

2217
01:31:27,350 --> 01:31:26,239
two zero five one seven four seven two

2218
01:31:30,950 --> 01:31:27,360
two eight two zero five

2219
01:31:34,229 --> 01:31:30,960
one fade or not it is fader night we

2220
01:31:36,470 --> 01:31:34,239
finally got to a thursday

2221
01:31:38,390 --> 01:31:36,480
and if we didn't just set the table

2222
01:31:39,830 --> 01:31:38,400
right now for conversation tonight with

2223
01:31:42,149 --> 01:31:39,840
ray santilli

2224
01:31:43,990 --> 01:31:42,159
it'll never happen so there's all kinds

2225
01:31:48,070 --> 01:31:44,000
of things to talk about tonight

2226
01:31:50,629 --> 01:31:48,080
um what is going on with lou elizondo

2227
01:31:54,310 --> 01:31:50,639
and the department of defense

2228
01:31:58,709 --> 01:31:54,320
deleting his emails without

2229
01:32:01,590 --> 01:31:58,719
any backup that is

2230
01:32:03,510 --> 01:32:01,600
that's an outrage that's an outrage with

2231
01:32:06,950 --> 01:32:03,520
everything that is going on right now

2232
01:32:09,430 --> 01:32:06,960
you know now also um

2233
01:32:11,750 --> 01:32:09,440
jeremy corbell released another flying

2234
01:32:15,350 --> 01:32:11,760
toasters uh video today

2235
01:32:18,470 --> 01:32:15,360
it is of a radar screen

2236
01:32:20,790 --> 01:32:18,480
compelling right a radar screen with

2237
01:32:22,229 --> 01:32:20,800
uh some radar objects on it moving at

2238
01:32:26,310 --> 01:32:22,239
about 36 knots

2239
01:32:28,229 --> 01:32:26,320
40 knots i think is what i heard uh uh

2240
01:32:30,070 --> 01:32:28,239
i i mean i did hear that maybe some were

2241
01:32:31,750 --> 01:32:30,080
going faster or slower or whatever

2242
01:32:33,990 --> 01:32:31,760
but that that's what was going on on

2243
01:32:35,750 --> 01:32:34,000
this um i don't care about the back

2244
01:32:38,229 --> 01:32:35,760
story or anything like that

2245
01:32:40,709 --> 01:32:38,239
the video is what it is about two

2246
01:32:43,110 --> 01:32:40,719
minutes of a radar screen today

2247
01:32:44,790 --> 01:32:43,120
i was hoping for there was a lot of uh

2248
01:32:48,470 --> 01:32:44,800
hype uh behind this drop

2249
01:32:50,550 --> 01:32:48,480
and it it showed absolutely zero

2250
01:32:53,110 --> 01:32:50,560
nothing i think it was on board the

2251
01:32:56,790 --> 01:32:53,120
omaha could be i could be wrong on that

2252
01:32:59,830 --> 01:32:56,800
um but yeah yeah that uh

2253
01:33:02,550 --> 01:32:59,840
that didn't really uh move the meter uh

2254
01:33:04,470 --> 01:33:02,560
in in in the positive direction but

2255
01:33:07,830 --> 01:33:04,480
anyway so that was released today

2256
01:33:08,550 --> 01:33:07,840
did you see the video what did you think

2257
01:33:11,750 --> 01:33:08,560
um

2258
01:33:14,149 --> 01:33:11,760
does this support something

2259
01:33:15,030 --> 01:33:14,159
okay so i would love to hear from you on

2260
01:33:17,590 --> 01:33:15,040
that as well

2261
01:33:18,790 --> 01:33:17,600
seven four seven two two eight two zero

2262
01:33:21,830 --> 01:33:18,800
five one

2263
01:33:25,030 --> 01:33:21,840
let's grab these in order this is up

2264
01:33:27,750 --> 01:33:25,040
first and i think i'm good to

2265
01:33:30,550 --> 01:33:27,760
go let's see who's up first hi you're

2266
01:33:32,950 --> 01:33:30,560
live on fade to black who's calling

2267
01:33:34,070 --> 01:33:32,960
hey jimmy how you doing this is uh raul

2268
01:33:35,669 --> 01:33:34,080
again hey raul

2269
01:33:37,110 --> 01:33:35,679
called you about three weeks ago how you

2270
01:33:39,590 --> 01:33:37,120
been man raul

2271
01:33:40,390 --> 01:33:39,600
my old friend how are you well i don't

2272
01:33:43,890 --> 01:33:40,400
remember that

2273
01:33:45,830 --> 01:33:43,900
come on raul come on come on the man

2274
01:33:48,310 --> 01:33:45,840
[Laughter]

2275
01:33:50,149 --> 01:33:48,320
oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah okay that

2276
01:33:51,590 --> 01:33:50,159
that was better you helped me out what's

2277
01:33:53,350 --> 01:33:51,600
on your mind tonight man

2278
01:33:54,709 --> 01:33:53,360
what's going on hey man not much man

2279
01:33:56,629 --> 01:33:54,719
just wanted to

2280
01:33:58,310 --> 01:33:56,639
let you know man your show's been great

2281
01:33:59,189 --> 01:33:58,320
tonight and the past couple weeks man

2282
01:34:04,310 --> 01:33:59,199
real

2283
01:34:05,830 --> 01:34:04,320
you know sometimes we get lucky

2284
01:34:07,350 --> 01:34:05,840
yeah yeah it kind of like me a lot of

2285
01:34:08,950 --> 01:34:07,360
things that i've seen and stuff so i go

2286
01:34:11,669 --> 01:34:08,960
back and forth with it so

2287
01:34:12,070 --> 01:34:11,679
it's been helpful i was just wondering

2288
01:34:16,629 --> 01:34:12,080
uh

2289
01:34:21,590 --> 01:34:16,639
i did

2290
01:34:24,470 --> 01:34:21,600
very interesting you're talking about

2291
01:34:26,149 --> 01:34:24,480
with the lightning right

2292
01:34:27,350 --> 01:34:26,159
yeah the one with the light yeah yeah

2293
01:34:28,950 --> 01:34:27,360
yeah that's pretty cool like it was

2294
01:34:31,510 --> 01:34:28,960
going everywhere yep yep yep

2295
01:34:32,790 --> 01:34:31,520
pretty interesting i don't i don't know

2296
01:34:35,669 --> 01:34:32,800
uh

2297
01:34:37,910 --> 01:34:35,679
when i look at stuff like that raul i

2298
01:34:39,910 --> 01:34:37,920
don't i need some more context with

2299
01:34:41,270 --> 01:34:39,920
it and and things and i'm not a

2300
01:34:44,310 --> 01:34:41,280
professional

2301
01:34:47,990 --> 01:34:44,320
um but it's pretty interesting um

2302
01:34:50,310 --> 01:34:48,000
there is um i have seen with myself

2303
01:34:51,270 --> 01:34:50,320
that this isn't what you have in your

2304
01:34:55,350 --> 01:34:51,280
video

2305
01:34:58,830 --> 01:34:55,360
but um i have uh gone out with my

2306
01:35:01,430 --> 01:34:58,840
uh cell phone and have gone to shoot

2307
01:35:01,910 --> 01:35:01,440
stuff and i've moved it around and i've

2308
01:35:05,430 --> 01:35:01,920
seen

2309
01:35:06,950 --> 01:35:05,440
lights moving around on my screen

2310
01:35:08,550 --> 01:35:06,960
and i pull the camera down i'm like

2311
01:35:11,590 --> 01:35:08,560
looking for it right

2312
01:35:12,229 --> 01:35:11,600
wait a minute i see it here and it's

2313
01:35:15,510 --> 01:35:12,239
moving or

2314
01:35:18,470 --> 01:35:15,520
what you know and so i i've often

2315
01:35:19,270 --> 01:35:18,480
yeah yeah yeah so i've often wondered is

2316
01:35:22,229 --> 01:35:19,280
it something that

2317
01:35:22,709 --> 01:35:22,239
only the camera can pick up that my eyes

2318
01:35:25,830 --> 01:35:22,719
aren't

2319
01:35:27,669 --> 01:35:25,840
seeing right that would make sense there

2320
01:35:29,189 --> 01:35:27,679
there is times where you do see it with

2321
01:35:29,669 --> 01:35:29,199
your eyes and there's times you don't

2322
01:35:33,270 --> 01:35:29,679
see it

2323
01:35:34,629 --> 01:35:33,280
it at the same time while you're looking

2324
01:35:37,030 --> 01:35:34,639
you know when when i'm out there you

2325
01:35:39,030 --> 01:35:37,040
only have a camera i wish i had like

2326
01:35:40,790 --> 01:35:39,040
a professional video camera and doing

2327
01:35:42,950 --> 01:35:40,800
all this other stuff but

2328
01:35:44,629 --> 01:35:42,960
man i i it's just one of those times

2329
01:35:46,149 --> 01:35:44,639
where you you don't expect it

2330
01:35:47,750 --> 01:35:46,159
yeah and it's just right there in front

2331
01:35:49,109 --> 01:35:47,760
of you so uh

2332
01:35:52,310 --> 01:35:49,119
have you had a chance what'd you think

2333
01:35:54,709 --> 01:35:52,320
of uh ray santilli tonight

2334
01:35:56,310 --> 01:35:54,719
oh it was awesome man really awesome

2335
01:35:59,510 --> 01:35:56,320
have you looked at the

2336
01:36:02,229 --> 01:35:59,520
posted the

2337
01:36:02,950 --> 01:36:02,239
the frame of the alien what do you think

2338
01:36:04,229 --> 01:36:02,960
yes

2339
01:36:07,350 --> 01:36:04,239
oh it kind of looks just like the

2340
01:36:09,430 --> 01:36:07,360
picture i sent you did you see the

2341
01:36:11,030 --> 01:36:09,440
did you see the picture that i sent you

2342
01:36:13,430 --> 01:36:11,040
not not the one with the ufo

2343
01:36:14,470 --> 01:36:13,440
that what i sent you a couple of emails

2344
01:36:17,830 --> 01:36:14,480
on that

2345
01:36:19,350 --> 01:36:17,840
there's somewhere i sent the video where

2346
01:36:20,870 --> 01:36:19,360
like you know i was telling you about

2347
01:36:22,790 --> 01:36:20,880
how i changed the

2348
01:36:24,070 --> 01:36:22,800
resolutions and stuff like that and you

2349
01:36:26,790 --> 01:36:24,080
can tell the inside

2350
01:36:28,550 --> 01:36:26,800
like it's like if i just recorded like

2351
01:36:33,510 --> 01:36:28,560
if i just took a picture

2352
01:36:36,070 --> 01:36:33,520
of the ufo itself from the inside

2353
01:36:37,830 --> 01:36:36,080
and it looks like you could tell like

2354
01:36:39,590 --> 01:36:37,840
there's like

2355
01:36:41,189 --> 01:36:39,600
like like a force field around it and

2356
01:36:42,629 --> 01:36:41,199
stuff like that you can see everything

2357
01:36:45,030 --> 01:36:42,639
yeah i don't know if you had a chance to

2358
01:36:46,790 --> 01:36:45,040
see that well i i i looked at everything

2359
01:36:50,629 --> 01:36:46,800
i i don't remember exactly

2360
01:36:52,470 --> 01:36:50,639
uh right now but um uh i i've seen

2361
01:36:54,310 --> 01:36:52,480
i've taken my own pictures where i've

2362
01:36:57,350 --> 01:36:54,320
seen what you're talking about

2363
01:37:00,470 --> 01:36:57,360
um my my thing

2364
01:37:03,109 --> 01:37:00,480
uh today and and i i

2365
01:37:03,910 --> 01:37:03,119
wish that we had an easier way to do

2366
01:37:05,990 --> 01:37:03,920
this

2367
01:37:07,910 --> 01:37:06,000
i would like to start seeing stuff shot

2368
01:37:11,669 --> 01:37:07,920
on film again

2369
01:37:14,149 --> 01:37:11,679
because we're looking at always remember

2370
01:37:15,750 --> 01:37:14,159
that we're in a digital world now so

2371
01:37:18,149 --> 01:37:15,760
with your cell phone or

2372
01:37:18,790 --> 01:37:18,159
with a camera or however you're shooting

2373
01:37:22,310 --> 01:37:18,800
gopro

2374
01:37:25,430 --> 01:37:22,320
doesn't matter you have a sensor

2375
01:37:29,030 --> 01:37:25,440
in there that is converting

2376
01:37:33,510 --> 01:37:29,040
the analog world around you to digital

2377
01:37:36,470 --> 01:37:33,520
information it's a representation

2378
01:37:36,870 --> 01:37:36,480
of what is real all right it's digi it's

2379
01:37:40,070 --> 01:37:36,880
now

2380
01:37:43,990 --> 01:37:40,080
numbers okay um with

2381
01:37:47,990 --> 01:37:44,000
with a film camera you're capturing

2382
01:37:51,030 --> 01:37:48,000
the analog right it's not a digital

2383
01:37:52,629 --> 01:37:51,040
conversion it's not a representation so

2384
01:37:56,310 --> 01:37:52,639
i would love to see

2385
01:37:58,629 --> 01:37:56,320
um uh uh photographs again

2386
01:38:00,390 --> 01:37:58,639
you know shot on film and and where you

2387
01:38:02,229 --> 01:38:00,400
can go back and look at the negative and

2388
01:38:06,310 --> 01:38:02,239
how the camera grabbed it

2389
01:38:08,149 --> 01:38:06,320
and then at the same time same picture

2390
01:38:10,070 --> 01:38:08,159
shot with digital and then you can

2391
01:38:12,070 --> 01:38:10,080
compare the two

2392
01:38:13,510 --> 01:38:12,080
and we don't have that ability today we

2393
01:38:14,709 --> 01:38:13,520
just don't have the ability everything

2394
01:38:16,950 --> 01:38:14,719
is shot in digital

2395
01:38:18,229 --> 01:38:16,960
well listen um raul i got to grab some

2396
01:38:20,790 --> 01:38:18,239
more phone calls

2397
01:38:22,310 --> 01:38:20,800
thank you so much thank you so much

2398
01:38:23,669 --> 01:38:22,320
thank you so much ro go take some

2399
01:38:25,990 --> 01:38:23,679
pictures send me some more

2400
01:38:27,430 --> 01:38:26,000
yeah think about it think about it let's

2401
01:38:30,229 --> 01:38:27,440
go to mexico i'm gonna do this

2402
01:38:31,510 --> 01:38:30,239
i'll talk to you man man let's go let's

2403
01:38:34,550 --> 01:38:31,520
go

2404
01:38:36,310 --> 01:38:34,560
talk to you everybody yeah thank you man

2405
01:38:38,229 --> 01:38:36,320
uh it's a great phone call right there

2406
01:38:41,350 --> 01:38:38,239
yeah raul's pictures were very

2407
01:38:43,590 --> 01:38:41,360
very very very interesting um

2408
01:38:46,709 --> 01:38:43,600
i like what he's doing i i really really

2409
01:38:50,070 --> 01:38:46,719
do um so raul keep taking the pictures

2410
01:38:52,149 --> 01:38:50,080
send me some more seven four seven

2411
01:38:53,830 --> 01:38:52,159
two two eight two zero five one it's

2412
01:38:56,310 --> 01:38:53,840
thursday night it is

2413
01:38:58,470 --> 01:38:56,320
fader night just had ray santilli on the

2414
01:38:59,270 --> 01:38:58,480
show for two segments let's go back to

2415
01:39:00,709 --> 01:38:59,280
the phones

2416
01:39:03,189 --> 01:39:00,719
hi you're live on fade to black who's

2417
01:39:14,550 --> 01:39:06,790
you're live

2418
01:39:16,070 --> 01:39:14,560
hello yes hey jimmy this is uh steve

2419
01:39:18,229 --> 01:39:16,080
otherwise known as slightly slanted

2420
01:39:23,030 --> 01:39:18,239
sleuth how are you doing man uh

2421
01:39:27,350 --> 01:39:23,040
steven otherwise known as slightly what

2422
01:39:29,910 --> 01:39:27,360
slightly slanted sleuth

2423
01:39:30,629 --> 01:39:29,920
this is this is a this is a family show

2424
01:39:32,709 --> 01:39:30,639
now

2425
01:39:35,430 --> 01:39:32,719
this is a family show this is a family

2426
01:39:37,590 --> 01:39:35,440
show stephen where are you calling from

2427
01:39:38,709 --> 01:39:37,600
i'm calling from minnesota oh right on

2428
01:39:41,510 --> 01:39:38,719
right on so

2429
01:39:42,709 --> 01:39:41,520
uh what's on your mind tonight well i

2430
01:39:43,990 --> 01:39:42,719
just wanted to address

2431
01:39:45,830 --> 01:39:44,000
i don't know where you stand on the

2432
01:39:49,030 --> 01:39:45,840
anunnaki thing and you know

2433
01:39:50,550 --> 01:39:49,040
all of that stuff but there's a lot of

2434
01:39:53,270 --> 01:39:50,560
things in our

2435
01:39:53,990 --> 01:39:53,280
world or in our history that you know i

2436
01:39:55,590 --> 01:39:54,000
don't know if you're

2437
01:39:57,030 --> 01:39:55,600
familiar with ancient america i'm sure

2438
01:39:57,510 --> 01:39:57,040
you are you watch the history channel

2439
01:40:00,070 --> 01:39:57,520
i'm sure

2440
01:40:00,790 --> 01:40:00,080
some of the ancient alien stuff but most

2441
01:40:06,870 --> 01:40:00,800
of

2442
01:40:10,229 --> 01:40:06,880
uh alien technology or

2443
01:40:14,070 --> 01:40:10,239
or uh you know certain aspects of

2444
01:40:17,990 --> 01:40:14,080
of our past but it's it's not aliens

2445
01:40:19,830 --> 01:40:18,000
because on on the uh ancient assyrian uh

2446
01:40:23,189 --> 01:40:19,840
iconography you know where

2447
01:40:23,590 --> 01:40:23,199
where the the bearded uh men are holding

2448
01:40:37,669 --> 01:40:23,600
the

2449
01:40:41,990 --> 01:40:40,070
okay if i'm going to get technical those

2450
01:40:44,790 --> 01:40:42,000
purses that you're talking about

2451
01:40:45,189 --> 01:40:44,800
every culture on this planet ancient uh

2452
01:40:48,229 --> 01:40:45,199
uh

2453
01:40:48,790 --> 01:40:48,239
sculptures and and and paintings and

2454
01:40:52,070 --> 01:40:48,800
things

2455
01:40:53,109 --> 01:40:52,080
uh inscriptions uh those purses are i

2456
01:40:56,229 --> 01:40:53,119
think are

2457
01:40:57,109 --> 01:40:56,239
represented uh uh with every ancient

2458
01:41:00,229 --> 01:40:57,119
civilization

2459
01:41:04,070 --> 01:41:03,189
which i find which i find very very very

2460
01:41:06,790 --> 01:41:04,080
very very

2461
01:41:08,470 --> 01:41:06,800
interesting it's one of the most it's

2462
01:41:08,790 --> 01:41:08,480
one of the most consistent things that

2463
01:41:12,390 --> 01:41:08,800
we

2464
01:41:16,149 --> 01:41:12,400
see um now and and how

2465
01:41:18,229 --> 01:41:16,159
were how are different cultures

2466
01:41:19,590 --> 01:41:18,239
inventing the same things at the same

2467
01:41:21,510 --> 01:41:19,600
time when

2468
01:41:22,790 --> 01:41:21,520
there's oceans in between them and

2469
01:41:24,390 --> 01:41:22,800
there's no way that they can make

2470
01:41:27,189 --> 01:41:24,400
contact with each other right

2471
01:41:29,270 --> 01:41:27,199
they weren't trans oceanic um i find

2472
01:41:32,950 --> 01:41:29,280
that interesting what is in those purses

2473
01:41:35,189 --> 01:41:32,960
is it information is it dna is it uh

2474
01:41:36,550 --> 01:41:35,199
is it the nuclear briefcase you know i

2475
01:41:38,709 --> 01:41:36,560
don't know i don't know

2476
01:41:39,590 --> 01:41:38,719
but uh they certainly were important

2477
01:41:42,550 --> 01:41:39,600
enough

2478
01:41:43,590 --> 01:41:42,560
that they were represented uh uh

2479
01:41:45,189 --> 01:41:43,600
everywhere

2480
01:41:48,149 --> 01:41:45,199
you know and i think goes back to go

2481
01:41:51,109 --> 01:41:48,159
beckley teppy so here you have

2482
01:41:51,830 --> 01:41:51,119
go beckley tepe predates uh mesopotamia

2483
01:41:54,550 --> 01:41:51,840
by 7

2484
01:41:56,470 --> 01:41:54,560
000 years there's the purses right there

2485
01:41:59,030 --> 01:41:56,480
go back lee tappy

2486
01:42:00,070 --> 01:41:59,040
now you find it all over mesopotamia you

2487
01:42:01,830 --> 01:42:00,080
find it in egypt

2488
01:42:03,270 --> 01:42:01,840
you find it with the mayan cultures you

2489
01:42:07,030 --> 01:42:03,280
see it in japan and

2490
01:42:10,950 --> 01:42:07,040
and uh china uh south america

2491
01:42:13,270 --> 01:42:10,960
it's it's it's everywhere

2492
01:42:15,430 --> 01:42:13,280
correct and and the reason for that is

2493
01:42:19,030 --> 01:42:15,440
sir is because

2494
01:42:22,390 --> 01:42:19,040
our uh our interconnectedness is beyond

2495
01:42:23,189 --> 01:42:22,400
anybody's um uh way of thinking these

2496
01:42:25,590 --> 01:42:23,199
days because

2497
01:42:27,189 --> 01:42:25,600
we're we're all in this individual doggy

2498
01:42:29,990 --> 01:42:27,199
dog mindset that

2499
01:42:30,470 --> 01:42:30,000
you know what anunnaki means if you look

2500
01:42:32,550 --> 01:42:30,480
at my

2501
01:42:33,750 --> 01:42:32,560
i'm in your chat and every now and then

2502
01:42:37,430 --> 01:42:33,760
and you'll see my

2503
01:42:38,870 --> 01:42:37,440
my uh avatar for my name and it that's

2504
01:42:40,550 --> 01:42:38,880
that's the ancient symbol called the

2505
01:42:43,830 --> 01:42:40,560
denon the danger

2506
01:42:46,950 --> 01:42:43,840
which is a uh a version of the anu

2507
01:42:49,030 --> 01:42:46,960
the anu is you know in in sitchin's book

2508
01:42:49,669 --> 01:42:49,040
still to have you think that the anu was

2509
01:42:59,109 --> 01:42:49,679
the

2510
01:43:02,470 --> 01:42:59,119
word anunnaki

2511
01:43:05,910 --> 01:43:02,480
it means sky father on earth and

2512
01:43:07,510 --> 01:43:05,920
the pine cone that them them uh the

2513
01:43:09,830 --> 01:43:07,520
figures are holding out in front of them

2514
01:43:11,510 --> 01:43:09,840
in their right hand is representation of

2515
01:43:13,430 --> 01:43:11,520
our pineal gland

2516
01:43:15,030 --> 01:43:13,440
and and that is there's it's

2517
01:43:15,990 --> 01:43:15,040
interconnected with the reason why the

2518
01:43:17,910 --> 01:43:16,000
vatican

2519
01:43:19,030 --> 01:43:17,920
has the pine cone statue in their

2520
01:43:20,790 --> 01:43:19,040
central courtyard

2521
01:43:22,790 --> 01:43:20,800
yeah they do because they know this

2522
01:43:24,550 --> 01:43:22,800
information yep that pine cones right

2523
01:43:25,270 --> 01:43:24,560
there man i've always found that very

2524
01:43:26,950 --> 01:43:25,280
interesting

2525
01:43:28,709 --> 01:43:26,960
when people have pointed that out i

2526
01:43:29,430 --> 01:43:28,719
remember uh when i first heard about it

2527
01:43:31,620 --> 01:43:29,440
like no

2528
01:43:33,109 --> 01:43:31,630
it's not there oh it's there

2529
01:43:35,030 --> 01:43:33,119
[Laughter]

2530
01:43:36,950 --> 01:43:35,040
it's there it's everywhere and and the

2531
01:43:38,709 --> 01:43:36,960
pine cone represents the evergreen tree

2532
01:43:41,270 --> 01:43:38,719
the only tree that stays green

2533
01:43:43,189 --> 01:43:41,280
ever you know forever in its life you

2534
01:43:45,350 --> 01:43:43,199
know it never it never loses its leaves

2535
01:43:46,790 --> 01:43:45,360
it doesn't go through cycles it's it's

2536
01:43:50,470 --> 01:43:46,800
forever green

2537
01:43:52,550 --> 01:43:50,480
and the the other ancient symbol that is

2538
01:43:55,430 --> 01:43:52,560
everywhere in our world that is

2539
01:43:56,950 --> 01:43:55,440
totally misunderstood is the cross and

2540
01:43:59,189 --> 01:43:56,960
if you look at any light

2541
01:44:00,070 --> 01:43:59,199
in the dark any star on the hubble

2542
01:44:02,390 --> 01:44:00,080
telescope

2543
01:44:04,310 --> 01:44:02,400
images anything you'll see a glint of

2544
01:44:06,390 --> 01:44:04,320
light that looks like a cross

2545
01:44:07,350 --> 01:44:06,400
that glint of light is what the cross is

2546
01:44:10,390 --> 01:44:07,360
born from

2547
01:44:12,870 --> 01:44:10,400
that is what we see when we meet our

2548
01:44:13,510 --> 01:44:12,880
truest self our truest one self which is

2549
01:44:15,669 --> 01:44:13,520
god

2550
01:44:17,669 --> 01:44:15,679
that is called ascension and and that's

2551
01:44:18,870 --> 01:44:17,679
what an anunnaki is somebody who has

2552
01:44:21,590 --> 01:44:18,880
seen the light

2553
01:44:22,470 --> 01:44:21,600
well don't you think the cross is

2554
01:44:26,229 --> 01:44:22,480
actually

2555
01:44:26,709 --> 01:44:26,239
you know from uh crucifying humans back

2556
01:44:37,109 --> 01:44:26,719
in

2557
01:44:39,430 --> 01:44:37,119
wouldn't it be safer to say that

2558
01:44:41,350 --> 01:44:39,440
that's yeah in in in the physical

2559
01:44:43,270 --> 01:44:41,360
mindset you it would be safer to say

2560
01:44:43,910 --> 01:44:43,280
that and that's that's where we go wrong

2561
01:44:48,310 --> 01:44:43,920
is

2562
01:44:50,390 --> 01:44:48,320
these texts because we see things

2563
01:44:51,430 --> 01:44:50,400
through a little literal five cents

2564
01:44:55,350 --> 01:44:51,440
mentality

2565
01:44:59,030 --> 01:44:55,360
sure and all of these things that

2566
01:45:02,149 --> 01:44:59,040
that are convoluted are simple you know

2567
01:45:04,070 --> 01:45:02,159
when we find ourselves when we know

2568
01:45:05,109 --> 01:45:04,080
ourselves it to know thyself is to know

2569
01:45:07,510 --> 01:45:05,119
the end of all

2570
01:45:09,510 --> 01:45:07,520
you know all information and it says

2571
01:45:11,430 --> 01:45:09,520
that over and over and all of these

2572
01:45:13,350 --> 01:45:11,440
these biblical stories all you know when

2573
01:45:14,310 --> 01:45:13,360
it's just the same story over and over

2574
01:45:16,950 --> 01:45:14,320
and over again

2575
01:45:19,109 --> 01:45:16,960
but you know the annunaki is truly

2576
01:45:22,390 --> 01:45:19,119
anybody who has seen the light

2577
01:45:23,350 --> 01:45:22,400
and any one of us can do it you know and

2578
01:45:24,550 --> 01:45:23,360
it's it's in it's

2579
01:45:25,910 --> 01:45:24,560
you don't have to go to a church you

2580
01:45:26,550 --> 01:45:25,920
don't have to pay it tithe it you don't

2581
01:45:29,830 --> 01:45:26,560
have to

2582
01:45:31,590 --> 01:45:29,840
you know it's just to be one with

2583
01:45:33,109 --> 01:45:31,600
yourself and being one with yourself is

2584
01:45:33,910 --> 01:45:33,119
one with everything because everything

2585
01:45:36,229 --> 01:45:33,920
is god

2586
01:45:37,910 --> 01:45:36,239
god is in all but all are not god and i

2587
01:45:38,709 --> 01:45:37,920
just wanted to point out the anunnaki

2588
01:45:40,470 --> 01:45:38,719
angling

2589
01:45:41,830 --> 01:45:40,480
you know because if when i turn on the

2590
01:45:43,270 --> 01:45:41,840
history channel i just look at the

2591
01:45:46,470 --> 01:45:43,280
history channel and

2592
01:45:49,189 --> 01:45:46,480
they just continue to to drag our

2593
01:45:50,149 --> 01:45:49,199
minds down down the path of everything's

2594
01:45:52,950 --> 01:45:50,159
outside of us

2595
01:45:54,070 --> 01:45:52,960
when everything is inside of us stephen

2596
01:45:56,950 --> 01:45:54,080
and

2597
01:45:59,030 --> 01:45:56,960
stephen thank you for the phone call man

2598
01:46:01,189 --> 01:45:59,040
that was amazing

2599
01:46:02,550 --> 01:46:01,199
thank you brother have a great night

2600
01:46:04,550 --> 01:46:02,560
that's a great phone call right there

2601
01:46:05,669 --> 01:46:04,560
and that's somebody that uh stephen pays

2602
01:46:10,950 --> 01:46:05,679
attention

2603
01:46:13,669 --> 01:46:10,960
one day hopefully in my lifetime we're

2604
01:46:15,189 --> 01:46:13,679
gonna figure out those purses

2605
01:46:17,030 --> 01:46:15,199
i remember when i started bringing that

2606
01:46:20,310 --> 01:46:17,040
up on the show i'm like

2607
01:46:22,709 --> 01:46:20,320
what is up with the purses man

2608
01:46:24,629 --> 01:46:22,719
these purses are everywhere why isn't

2609
01:46:27,109 --> 01:46:24,639
anybody talking about the purses

2610
01:46:28,070 --> 01:46:27,119
and there's um uh there's one other

2611
01:46:30,870 --> 01:46:28,080
thing too that

2612
01:46:32,390 --> 01:46:30,880
that nobody wants to bring up nobody

2613
01:46:35,510 --> 01:46:32,400
wants to bring up uh

2614
01:46:38,390 --> 01:46:35,520
the h's nobody wants to bring that up

2615
01:46:40,310 --> 01:46:38,400
you know uh the hermes h's on the belts

2616
01:46:42,870 --> 01:46:40,320
nobody wants to bring up the belts

2617
01:46:44,149 --> 01:46:42,880
why don't they bring up the belts i

2618
01:46:47,430 --> 01:46:44,159
don't get that

2619
01:46:49,830 --> 01:46:47,440
those h's are significant

2620
01:46:52,149 --> 01:46:49,840
they're right there but no nobody wants

2621
01:46:55,270 --> 01:46:52,159
to bring up the h's and i

2622
01:46:58,870 --> 01:46:55,280
i don't understand why i don't and

2623
01:47:01,750 --> 01:46:58,880
so um you know going back to

2624
01:47:02,070 --> 01:47:01,760
uh the days you know it was probably

2625
01:47:04,629 --> 01:47:02,080
seven

2626
01:47:06,229 --> 01:47:04,639
eight years ago when i started to bring

2627
01:47:08,310 --> 01:47:06,239
this up

2628
01:47:09,350 --> 01:47:08,320
which is what's up with the purses

2629
01:47:10,790 --> 01:47:09,360
what's going on there

2630
01:47:12,709 --> 01:47:10,800
what's going on with the belt what's

2631
01:47:13,669 --> 01:47:12,719
going on with that belt buckle what's

2632
01:47:16,709 --> 01:47:13,679
going on with the

2633
01:47:20,229 --> 01:47:16,719
h clearly a symbol of

2634
01:47:23,430 --> 01:47:20,239
importance to a culture that is 12

2635
01:47:26,070 --> 01:47:23,440
000 years old

2636
01:47:27,750 --> 01:47:26,080
let's discuss this it's important go

2637
01:47:29,910 --> 01:47:27,760
back lee teppy man

2638
01:47:31,750 --> 01:47:29,920
go back lee tappy let's go back to the

2639
01:47:34,790 --> 01:47:31,760
phones hi you're live on fade to black

2640
01:47:37,830 --> 01:47:36,629
you're jimmy can you hear me yeah who's

2641
01:47:41,030 --> 01:47:37,840
this

2642
01:47:42,629 --> 01:47:41,040
garden grove i

2643
01:47:45,109 --> 01:47:42,639
called in like two years ago on your

2644
01:47:49,109 --> 01:47:45,119
birthday on october 10th

2645
01:47:51,350 --> 01:47:49,119
jr i remember no i don't remember you jr

2646
01:47:53,270 --> 01:47:51,360
but how you doing

2647
01:47:55,030 --> 01:47:53,280
good man i'm just messing with you i

2648
01:47:55,669 --> 01:47:55,040
just wanted to give my condolences to

2649
01:47:58,629 --> 01:47:55,679
you i'm

2650
01:47:59,990 --> 01:47:58,639
really sorry about what happened and

2651
01:48:01,590 --> 01:48:00,000
don't want to think about the day when

2652
01:48:04,149 --> 01:48:01,600
it's my turn or anything so

2653
01:48:06,229 --> 01:48:04,159
yeah my condolences yeah i appreciate

2654
01:48:09,669 --> 01:48:06,239
that thank you so much

2655
01:48:11,830 --> 01:48:09,679
no problem um yeah so

2656
01:48:13,189 --> 01:48:11,840
i called in with uh my buddy kelvis a

2657
01:48:15,109 --> 01:48:13,199
while back

2658
01:48:16,790 --> 01:48:15,119
i don't know if you remember that i do i

2659
01:48:18,950 --> 01:48:16,800
do

2660
01:48:20,950 --> 01:48:18,960
yeah he was with the coast guard yeah i

2661
01:48:24,070 --> 01:48:20,960
remember that yeah

2662
01:48:28,149 --> 01:48:24,080
so you know a lot's happened since that

2663
01:48:30,149 --> 01:48:28,159
phone call um it's weird

2664
01:48:31,990 --> 01:48:30,159
when i talked to you two years ago there

2665
01:48:35,430 --> 01:48:32,000
wasn't that many people

2666
01:48:38,470 --> 01:48:35,440
um really talking about the other angle

2667
01:48:41,590 --> 01:48:38,480
which was maybe it's our stuff or

2668
01:48:43,830 --> 01:48:41,600
at least human stuff um

2669
01:48:45,669 --> 01:48:43,840
you know since since then i've asked

2670
01:48:46,629 --> 01:48:45,679
kelvin a million questions about the

2671
01:48:49,109 --> 01:48:46,639
event

2672
01:48:50,070 --> 01:48:49,119
and i thought i would just call you and

2673
01:48:52,709 --> 01:48:50,080
see you know

2674
01:48:54,070 --> 01:48:52,719
where you stand with that still and by

2675
01:48:55,750 --> 01:48:54,080
the sounds of it i've been following you

2676
01:48:57,109 --> 01:48:55,760
the whole time i just haven't called in

2677
01:48:59,750 --> 01:48:57,119
a long time

2678
01:49:01,510 --> 01:48:59,760
but i can tell you where i'm at with

2679
01:49:04,629 --> 01:49:01,520
corbell's stuff

2680
01:49:07,030 --> 01:49:04,639
um you know and the other thing

2681
01:49:08,550 --> 01:49:07,040
i was so i've asked kelvis about that

2682
01:49:10,629 --> 01:49:08,560
incident and there's been a couple

2683
01:49:11,109 --> 01:49:10,639
things that kind of add more credence to

2684
01:49:13,750 --> 01:49:11,119
it

2685
01:49:14,709 --> 01:49:13,760
like what and one of the things is that

2686
01:49:16,709 --> 01:49:14,719
when i asked them

2687
01:49:17,910 --> 01:49:16,719
hey when the thing did the tracer and

2688
01:49:20,629 --> 01:49:17,920
just took off like a

2689
01:49:22,229 --> 01:49:20,639
mock whatever six plus whatever did it

2690
01:49:24,390 --> 01:49:22,239
leave any like smoke trails do you

2691
01:49:26,070 --> 01:49:24,400
remember or was it just the blue tracer

2692
01:49:28,470 --> 01:49:26,080
and it was boom and he said no

2693
01:49:29,669 --> 01:49:28,480
no tr no trails of any kind of exhaust

2694
01:49:31,189 --> 01:49:29,679
or anything like that

2695
01:49:33,270 --> 01:49:31,199
it just took off it didn't leave any

2696
01:49:36,470 --> 01:49:33,280
smoke and then

2697
01:49:39,350 --> 01:49:36,480
the other thing i asked him

2698
01:49:40,550 --> 01:49:39,360
uh so here's one of the weird things

2699
01:49:44,310 --> 01:49:40,560
when kelvin saw

2700
01:49:47,910 --> 01:49:44,320
what he saw it was in 2003

2701
01:49:49,270 --> 01:49:47,920
and in 2003 he told me that

2702
01:49:51,189 --> 01:49:49,280
if you remember the phone call i don't

2703
01:49:51,510 --> 01:49:51,199
know if you've heard it again in a while

2704
01:49:53,750 --> 01:49:51,520
but

2705
01:49:55,510 --> 01:49:53,760
he he went back or i went back and i was

2706
01:49:58,629 --> 01:49:55,520
listening he was telling me about

2707
01:50:00,310 --> 01:49:58,639
how his uh captain came down the boat

2708
01:50:02,149 --> 01:50:00,320
and was asking kelvis and the other

2709
01:50:03,189 --> 01:50:02,159
radar guys do you guys see anything on

2710
01:50:06,470 --> 01:50:03,199
your radar

2711
01:50:08,149 --> 01:50:06,480
and he said no and he said are you sure

2712
01:50:09,990 --> 01:50:08,159
and you know so he looks again he's like

2713
01:50:11,350 --> 01:50:10,000
yeah are we supposed to and he goes and

2714
01:50:12,550 --> 01:50:11,360
if you remember he told them all right

2715
01:50:14,550 --> 01:50:12,560
come up top

2716
01:50:15,910 --> 01:50:14,560
so then he went on the big eyes and

2717
01:50:17,350 --> 01:50:15,920
that's you know they point someone's

2718
01:50:20,070 --> 01:50:17,360
already out there pointing it out to

2719
01:50:21,750 --> 01:50:20,080
the guys coming above uh you know on the

2720
01:50:24,790 --> 01:50:21,760
above board or whatever

2721
01:50:28,149 --> 01:50:24,800
and um the thing i find interesting

2722
01:50:30,470 --> 01:50:28,159
is that you know the next year

2723
01:50:32,310 --> 01:50:30,480
is when they actually uh added the new

2724
01:50:34,550 --> 01:50:32,320
radar in 2004

2725
01:50:36,229 --> 01:50:34,560
right and they did not he did not have

2726
01:50:37,990 --> 01:50:36,239
that radar system i've asked him this

2727
01:50:39,830 --> 01:50:38,000
i'm like so you didn't have that updated

2728
01:50:41,990 --> 01:50:39,840
radar right when you when you could not

2729
01:50:45,350 --> 01:50:42,000
see him on your radar he goes exactly

2730
01:50:47,430 --> 01:50:45,360
so 2004 is when the nimitz happened

2731
01:50:48,629 --> 01:50:47,440
but that's when they updated their radar

2732
01:50:50,310 --> 01:50:48,639
system on that ship

2733
01:50:52,070 --> 01:50:50,320
and he was actually there for that too

2734
01:50:54,870 --> 01:50:52,080
like they updated his too

2735
01:50:55,830 --> 01:50:54,880
i think it's the aegis or something but

2736
01:50:57,430 --> 01:50:55,840
um

2737
01:50:58,870 --> 01:50:57,440
so that part i thought was kind of

2738
01:51:00,950 --> 01:50:58,880
interesting because you know the

2739
01:51:02,470 --> 01:51:00,960
on the nimitz encounter you know they

2740
01:51:03,990 --> 01:51:02,480
have them all over radar we have

2741
01:51:06,070 --> 01:51:04,000
and if you remember it wasn't just one

2742
01:51:09,189 --> 01:51:06,080
there's swarms of them fleets of them

2743
01:51:12,709 --> 01:51:09,199
all that so

2744
01:51:14,390 --> 01:51:12,719
i don't know i i just think uh

2745
01:51:16,229 --> 01:51:14,400
oh the other thing okay so here's

2746
01:51:19,030 --> 01:51:16,239
another point that i was going to make

2747
01:51:20,470 --> 01:51:19,040
oh i asked them i said so why are they

2748
01:51:22,550 --> 01:51:20,480
allowed to even talk about this

2749
01:51:23,830 --> 01:51:22,560
because i was asking them like it's kind

2750
01:51:24,709 --> 01:51:23,840
of weird that they would you know be

2751
01:51:27,030 --> 01:51:24,719
able to because he

2752
01:51:28,470 --> 01:51:27,040
kelvis isn't allowed he's told me but

2753
01:51:30,390 --> 01:51:28,480
he's not allowed to really talk about

2754
01:51:33,589 --> 01:51:30,400
some of the stuff he's told me

2755
01:51:34,870 --> 01:51:33,599
because it was live combat he told me

2756
01:51:36,790 --> 01:51:34,880
it's not even a big deal

2757
01:51:37,910 --> 01:51:36,800
the stuff he told me it's not that crazy

2758
01:51:40,629 --> 01:51:37,920
but the fact that it's

2759
01:51:42,390 --> 01:51:40,639
live combat it was wartime he's actually

2760
01:51:44,229 --> 01:51:42,400
not allowed to talk about that

2761
01:51:45,430 --> 01:51:44,239
so he told me what what's kind of

2762
01:51:48,310 --> 01:51:45,440
interesting is that

2763
01:51:49,350 --> 01:51:48,320
the only reason those those people uh

2764
01:51:52,629 --> 01:51:49,360
favor

2765
01:51:53,510 --> 01:51:52,639
uh um all the you know all the other

2766
01:51:55,030 --> 01:51:53,520
characters

2767
01:51:57,109 --> 01:51:55,040
the only reason they were able to even

2768
01:51:58,950 --> 01:51:57,119
talk about this was because

2769
01:52:00,790 --> 01:51:58,960
it was a training exercise he told me

2770
01:52:01,669 --> 01:52:00,800
that he said the only way they're able

2771
01:52:04,709 --> 01:52:01,679
to even let this

2772
01:52:05,830 --> 01:52:04,719
get out was because it was training so

2773
01:52:07,510 --> 01:52:05,840
he said

2774
01:52:09,189 --> 01:52:07,520
you know it's not like when they're like

2775
01:52:09,990 --> 01:52:09,199
yeah we couldn't defend ourselves we had

2776
01:52:11,990 --> 01:52:10,000
no live

2777
01:52:13,669 --> 01:52:12,000
ammunition or whatever they they weren't

2778
01:52:15,350 --> 01:52:13,679
supposed to and they knew that and

2779
01:52:16,070 --> 01:52:15,360
whoever was testing the thing knew that

2780
01:52:17,750 --> 01:52:16,080
too

2781
01:52:19,589 --> 01:52:17,760
and how could it magically know their

2782
01:52:20,550 --> 01:52:19,599
cat point well it's because they knew

2783
01:52:23,589 --> 01:52:20,560
their cat point

2784
01:52:23,990 --> 01:52:23,599
it wasn't like magic now yeah they said

2785
01:52:26,149 --> 01:52:24,000
that

2786
01:52:28,550 --> 01:52:26,159
it went six miles in the blink of a

2787
01:52:30,470 --> 01:52:28,560
second that's what craver says he says

2788
01:52:32,390 --> 01:52:30,480
oh yeah we saw the thing in it and he

2789
01:52:34,550 --> 01:52:32,400
was back at my cat point

2790
01:52:35,510 --> 01:52:34,560
and that's six miles away he said it was

2791
01:52:38,870 --> 01:52:35,520
instant

2792
01:52:39,589 --> 01:52:38,880
well if there's multiple drones out

2793
01:52:41,750 --> 01:52:39,599
there

2794
01:52:43,589 --> 01:52:41,760
maybe the one he saw did take off but

2795
01:52:45,030 --> 01:52:43,599
blinked and the one he didn't see

2796
01:52:46,790 --> 01:52:45,040
if there's multiple drones or whatever

2797
01:52:49,430 --> 01:52:46,800
they call it appeared

2798
01:52:50,629 --> 01:52:49,440
on radar like it was it wasn't on radar

2799
01:52:51,270 --> 01:52:50,639
it might have been at the cap point

2800
01:52:53,189 --> 01:52:51,280
already

2801
01:52:55,430 --> 01:52:53,199
but it didn't appear on radar until the

2802
01:52:58,950 --> 01:52:55,440
other one disappears from their view

2803
01:53:00,709 --> 01:52:58,960
that could be a possibility and um

2804
01:53:02,070 --> 01:53:00,719
yeah the more the more i've dug into

2805
01:53:05,350 --> 01:53:02,080
this for like the last two years

2806
01:53:06,149 --> 01:53:05,360
it just to me from you know the stories

2807
01:53:08,310 --> 01:53:06,159
i've heard

2808
01:53:09,750 --> 01:53:08,320
i think it's ours and i don't even think

2809
01:53:11,990 --> 01:53:09,760
it's china's or anything

2810
01:53:13,910 --> 01:53:12,000
and the reason i the other reason i go

2811
01:53:16,470 --> 01:53:13,920
there is because

2812
01:53:18,390 --> 01:53:16,480
so china russia these kind of countries

2813
01:53:19,990 --> 01:53:18,400
they do like military parades still we

2814
01:53:20,790 --> 01:53:20,000
stopped doing that in like world war ii

2815
01:53:22,149 --> 01:53:20,800
we don't do that

2816
01:53:24,070 --> 01:53:22,159
we don't just go out and show all the

2817
01:53:25,189 --> 01:53:24,080
stuff we have we keep our cards close to

2818
01:53:27,350 --> 01:53:25,199
the best

2819
01:53:28,950 --> 01:53:27,360
but i've asked kelvin like is this just

2820
01:53:30,870 --> 01:53:28,960
a clever way

2821
01:53:32,709 --> 01:53:30,880
of the government putting other

2822
01:53:34,470 --> 01:53:32,719
countries on notice like

2823
01:53:36,550 --> 01:53:34,480
hey these things we don't know anything

2824
01:53:37,910 --> 01:53:36,560
about we want you to tell us

2825
01:53:39,830 --> 01:53:37,920
and the whole public to tell us because

2826
01:53:41,669 --> 01:53:39,840
we're too dumb right you guys tell us we

2827
01:53:43,910 --> 01:53:41,679
don't know anything here

2828
01:53:45,910 --> 01:53:43,920
but is it really they know everything

2829
01:53:47,510 --> 01:53:45,920
and this is their clever way of letting

2830
01:53:48,629 --> 01:53:47,520
them know like hey if you guys really

2831
01:53:51,270 --> 01:53:48,639
want to

2832
01:53:53,430 --> 01:53:51,280
you know start this off we have stuff

2833
01:53:57,430 --> 01:53:53,440
that will take out your copied ripped

2834
01:54:02,229 --> 01:53:59,270
yeah yeah yeah and we do that all the

2835
01:54:04,310 --> 01:54:02,239
time and it's not only with aircraft we

2836
01:54:06,149 --> 01:54:04,320
do that with spacecraft we do that with

2837
01:54:09,510 --> 01:54:06,159
bullets we do that with guns

2838
01:54:10,950 --> 01:54:09,520
and and technology and uh look what we

2839
01:54:13,910 --> 01:54:10,960
did with night vision

2840
01:54:15,189 --> 01:54:13,920
and uh you know just right years ahead

2841
01:54:17,430 --> 01:54:15,199
of everybody else

2842
01:54:18,870 --> 01:54:17,440
we just put this suggestion out there

2843
01:54:20,950 --> 01:54:18,880
that this is what

2844
01:54:22,070 --> 01:54:20,960
uh has been seen and there's a positive

2845
01:54:25,510 --> 01:54:22,080
and then suddenly

2846
01:54:26,149 --> 01:54:25,520
you put the fear in in everybody else

2847
01:54:27,910 --> 01:54:26,159
because

2848
01:54:29,589 --> 01:54:27,920
and you get funding too with the fear

2849
01:54:32,149 --> 01:54:29,599
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

2850
01:54:32,629 --> 01:54:32,159
no you're right you're right jr hey man

2851
01:54:33,990 --> 01:54:32,639
it's uh

2852
01:54:35,910 --> 01:54:34,000
it's great to hear your voice tell

2853
01:54:37,189 --> 01:54:35,920
kelvin i said yo do you still talk to

2854
01:54:39,510 --> 01:54:37,199
him

2855
01:54:41,030 --> 01:54:39,520
oh yeah i i moved away i'm actually not

2856
01:54:41,830 --> 01:54:41,040
jared from garden grove i'm jr from

2857
01:54:43,990 --> 01:54:41,840
huntington now

2858
01:54:45,669 --> 01:54:44,000
but uh yeah i moved away from the nave

2859
01:54:47,669 --> 01:54:45,679
but i still see him all the time

2860
01:54:49,830 --> 01:54:47,679
um do i have time to ask you a quick

2861
01:54:50,070 --> 01:54:49,840
quick couple questions before or is this

2862
01:55:00,870 --> 01:54:50,080
i

2863
01:55:03,430 --> 01:55:00,880
a lot of the so-called you know our our

2864
01:55:04,149 --> 01:55:03,440
our uh smoking guns like when reagan

2865
01:55:07,030 --> 01:55:04,159
said uh

2866
01:55:08,709 --> 01:55:07,040
you know i quickly think how are all our

2867
01:55:11,270 --> 01:55:08,719
differences would change

2868
01:55:12,709 --> 01:55:11,280
an alien threat right okay could an

2869
01:55:15,669 --> 01:55:12,719
alien threat be

2870
01:55:17,669 --> 01:55:15,679
uh an asteroid and would you go to

2871
01:55:19,430 --> 01:55:17,679
gorbachev and be like yo if we're gonna

2872
01:55:19,910 --> 01:55:19,440
launch every nuke we have at this rock

2873
01:55:21,830 --> 01:55:19,920
someday

2874
01:55:23,109 --> 01:55:21,840
if it potentially comes here are you

2875
01:55:24,550 --> 01:55:23,119
guys gonna bomb us

2876
01:55:25,990 --> 01:55:24,560
once we do that and take it out because

2877
01:55:26,709 --> 01:55:26,000
we're gonna be defenseless are you gonna

2878
01:55:29,669 --> 01:55:26,719
help us

2879
01:55:30,629 --> 01:55:29,679
if there is an alien threat from outside

2880
01:55:33,510 --> 01:55:30,639
this world

2881
01:55:35,669 --> 01:55:33,520
heading towards us yeah yeah yeah i can

2882
01:55:38,709 --> 01:55:35,679
answer that uh very quickly and easily

2883
01:55:41,750 --> 01:55:38,719
the answer is if uh

2884
01:55:45,589 --> 01:55:41,760
if there are observatories

2885
01:55:48,229 --> 01:55:45,599
uh around the world um making contact

2886
01:55:50,470 --> 01:55:48,239
with uh something approaching this

2887
01:55:53,589 --> 01:55:50,480
planet whether it's an asteroid

2888
01:55:57,350 --> 01:55:53,599
or a giant starship right

2889
01:55:59,109 --> 01:55:57,360
once that is confirmed the scientific

2890
01:56:00,390 --> 01:55:59,119
community is going to be talking to its

2891
01:56:02,870 --> 01:56:00,400
uh uh

2892
01:56:04,310 --> 01:56:02,880
its its neighbors all around the world

2893
01:56:05,350 --> 01:56:04,320
all of the same time it's going to get

2894
01:56:07,910 --> 01:56:05,360
confirmed

2895
01:56:09,510 --> 01:56:07,920
and then the nations are going to

2896
01:56:11,910 --> 01:56:09,520
communicate

2897
01:56:14,149 --> 01:56:11,920
there is no question about it that no

2898
01:56:17,030 --> 01:56:14,159
matter what that object is

2899
01:56:18,709 --> 01:56:17,040
we would cooperate with each other like

2900
01:56:19,669 --> 01:56:18,719
everyone always says that he's talking

2901
01:56:21,830 --> 01:56:19,679
straight about

2902
01:56:23,270 --> 01:56:21,840
aliens but an alien threat could be an

2903
01:56:24,790 --> 01:56:23,280
asteroid yeah it could be anything no

2904
01:56:27,430 --> 01:56:24,800
he's just being very

2905
01:56:29,189 --> 01:56:27,440
like uh general you know just anything

2906
01:56:31,350 --> 01:56:29,199
it could be aliens you know if it were

2907
01:56:32,790 --> 01:56:31,360
but i'm just saying like a lot of people

2908
01:56:33,510 --> 01:56:32,800
go straight to that like dude right

2909
01:56:37,510 --> 01:56:33,520
there that's

2910
01:56:40,470 --> 01:56:37,520
straight proof i'm like no it could be

2911
01:56:42,070 --> 01:56:40,480
jr don't don't spend two two years to

2912
01:56:42,709 --> 01:56:42,080
the next phone call thank you so much my

2913
01:56:45,669 --> 01:56:42,719
friend

2914
01:56:46,950 --> 01:56:45,679
dude no problem right on great phone

2915
01:56:51,350 --> 01:56:46,960
call jr

2916
01:56:55,030 --> 01:56:51,360
and that was um that was a pretty

2917
01:56:56,950 --> 01:56:55,040
uh pretty interesting day two years ago

2918
01:56:58,390 --> 01:56:56,960
yeah that was a pretty interesting day

2919
01:56:59,109 --> 01:56:58,400
i'll talk more about that after the

2920
01:57:00,629 --> 01:56:59,119
break

2921
01:57:10,629 --> 01:57:00,639
this is faded black i'm young jimmy

2922
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church it's fader night stay with me

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2990
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2992
02:00:15,109 --> 02:00:12,960
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02:00:19,910 --> 02:00:17,520
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02:01:19,189 --> 02:01:17,840
i couldn't stay sane without ponies to

3016
02:01:22,470 --> 02:01:19,199
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3017
02:01:23,430 --> 02:01:22,480
why fade to black because you never got

3018
02:01:27,750 --> 02:01:23,440
that pony

3019
02:01:32,310 --> 02:01:29,990
this is fade to black with jimmy church

3020
02:01:37,120 --> 02:01:32,320
on the game changer radio network

3021
02:01:52,070 --> 02:01:37,130
and kgra the global radio alliance

3022
02:01:56,070 --> 02:01:53,830
welcome back fade to black i am your

3023
02:01:58,470 --> 02:01:56,080
host jimmy church

3024
02:01:59,990 --> 02:01:58,480
thursday night fader night open lines

3025
02:02:00,709 --> 02:02:00,000
all night long thursday night fader

3026
02:02:04,390 --> 02:02:00,719
night

3027
02:02:06,870 --> 02:02:04,400
ray santillian wow

3028
02:02:07,910 --> 02:02:06,880
wow what a conversation and and i'm

3029
02:02:10,310 --> 02:02:07,920
gonna say this and i

3030
02:02:11,750 --> 02:02:10,320
i truly mean this uh you guys are

3031
02:02:16,070 --> 02:02:11,760
spoiled

3032
02:02:19,109 --> 02:02:18,310
i know what goes on in this show every

3033
02:02:22,550 --> 02:02:19,119
single night

3034
02:02:25,350 --> 02:02:22,560
it is the absolute best and and i know

3035
02:02:26,550 --> 02:02:25,360
back in the day right back in the day

3036
02:02:28,950 --> 02:02:26,560
when i was

3037
02:02:30,229 --> 02:02:28,960
uh just like all of you i was just like

3038
02:02:33,830 --> 02:02:30,239
all of you where i was

3039
02:02:37,109 --> 02:02:33,840
uh uh listening uh to

3040
02:02:38,870 --> 02:02:37,119
to you know art bell and and and

3041
02:02:41,430 --> 02:02:38,880
everything that i could collect every

3042
02:02:43,510 --> 02:02:41,440
single night and going out there and

3043
02:02:45,109 --> 02:02:43,520
and listening to these these shows it

3044
02:02:48,550 --> 02:02:45,119
was it was fun

3045
02:02:49,910 --> 02:02:48,560
and uh but i know the quality and i know

3046
02:02:50,310 --> 02:02:49,920
the nights where i just like you know

3047
02:02:52,390 --> 02:02:50,320
what

3048
02:02:53,669 --> 02:02:52,400
nah i'm not going to listen tonight nah

3049
02:02:55,669 --> 02:02:53,679
this is ah

3050
02:02:57,270 --> 02:02:55,679
i've done this before nah you know i've

3051
02:03:00,550 --> 02:02:57,280
done it i've done it

3052
02:03:04,070 --> 02:03:00,560
fade to black man this stuff is coming

3053
02:03:07,830 --> 02:03:04,080
in strong coming in strong

3054
02:03:11,030 --> 02:03:07,840
so there you go so um

3055
02:03:13,109 --> 02:03:11,040
uh oh ray santilli email

3056
02:03:15,270 --> 02:03:13,119
he's so thankful there you go thank you

3057
02:03:16,470 --> 02:03:15,280
uh thank you again ray that's a very

3058
02:03:19,109 --> 02:03:16,480
cool of you

3059
02:03:20,310 --> 02:03:19,119
um okay so where am i at let's uh get

3060
02:03:23,750 --> 02:03:20,320
back to the phones

3061
02:03:25,109 --> 02:03:23,760
oh i've just let everybody know i am

3062
02:03:27,030 --> 02:03:25,119
going to uh

3063
02:03:28,390 --> 02:03:27,040
i'm going to keep the youtube chat open

3064
02:03:29,270 --> 02:03:28,400
i want to see if i can chop chop

3065
02:03:32,470 --> 02:03:29,280
somebody else

3066
02:03:41,030 --> 02:03:32,480
right to the neck karate chop to the

3067
02:03:44,550 --> 02:03:42,310
one let's 747-228-2051-747-228-2051 can

3068
02:03:45,510 --> 02:03:44,560
jimmy arrange an awesome interview with

3069
02:03:47,990 --> 02:03:45,520
a guy named phil

3070
02:03:48,629 --> 02:03:48,000
langdon if you're interested in the

3071
02:03:51,430 --> 02:03:48,639
stuff

3072
02:03:51,910 --> 02:03:51,440
i speak of i don't know who phil langdon

3073
02:03:54,310 --> 02:03:51,920
is

3074
02:03:59,950 --> 02:03:54,320
now i'm now i'm reading chats okay let's

3075
02:04:05,030 --> 02:04:01,750
747-228-2051

3076
02:04:06,950 --> 02:04:05,040
and uh let's see who we have up next

3077
02:04:08,470 --> 02:04:06,960
i don't know i this is this is the best

3078
02:04:11,109 --> 02:04:08,480
part of fader night for me

3079
02:04:12,390 --> 02:04:11,119
this is it because i just got to go hi

3080
02:04:13,990 --> 02:04:12,400
you're live on fade to block who's

3081
02:04:16,870 --> 02:04:14,000
calling

3082
02:04:17,430 --> 02:04:16,880
hi jimmy it's uh bill from louisiana

3083
02:04:23,430 --> 02:04:17,440
bill

3084
02:04:25,830 --> 02:04:23,440
i'm doing good happy theater night happy

3085
02:04:29,109 --> 02:04:25,840
fader night to you

3086
02:04:31,030 --> 02:04:29,119
yeah hey uh i had thought while i was on

3087
02:04:35,109 --> 02:04:31,040
hold you know that uh

3088
02:04:37,589 --> 02:04:35,119
that pine cone shows up in the flags of

3089
02:04:40,550 --> 02:04:37,599
massachusetts and maine and i'm sure

3090
02:04:44,310 --> 02:04:40,560
there's a deep dive there

3091
02:04:47,830 --> 02:04:44,320
the uh the pine cone if you go

3092
02:04:50,069 --> 02:04:47,840
um and and look at some of the symbology

3093
02:04:52,790 --> 02:04:50,079
and the meaning and the hidden meanings

3094
02:04:54,149 --> 02:04:52,800
uh that are there behind the pine cone

3095
02:04:57,030 --> 02:04:54,159
um

3096
02:04:57,750 --> 02:04:57,040
it's it's it's a trip man uh the way the

3097
02:05:01,510 --> 02:04:57,760
cultures

3098
02:05:03,990 --> 02:05:01,520
uh looked at the pine cones and

3099
02:05:05,830 --> 02:05:04,000
and the the the part about the vatican

3100
02:05:07,109 --> 02:05:05,840
and that pine cone that sculpture that

3101
02:05:09,669 --> 02:05:07,119
is right there

3102
02:05:11,830 --> 02:05:09,679
um that's real and so you have to step

3103
02:05:13,270 --> 02:05:11,840
back and ask yourself why here in north

3104
02:05:16,229 --> 02:05:13,280
america

3105
02:05:17,510 --> 02:05:16,239
um you know when you grow up and you're

3106
02:05:20,069 --> 02:05:17,520
walking through the woods and you're

3107
02:05:23,350 --> 02:05:20,079
stepping on pine cones all day

3108
02:05:26,870 --> 02:05:23,360
um you know what i mean it's just

3109
02:05:29,750 --> 02:05:26,880
like it's like an acorn it's like grass

3110
02:05:30,470 --> 02:05:29,760
right it's just like they're everywhere

3111
02:05:33,589 --> 02:05:30,480
and you don't

3112
02:05:35,750 --> 02:05:33,599
understand you know where i'm going with

3113
02:05:38,870 --> 02:05:35,760
this right you don't understand

3114
02:05:41,270 --> 02:05:38,880
and then you go back to ancient history

3115
02:05:43,669 --> 02:05:41,280
and the cultures and the way that they

3116
02:05:44,629 --> 02:05:43,679
would take uh the representation of the

3117
02:05:47,910 --> 02:05:44,639
symbology

3118
02:05:48,790 --> 02:05:47,920
of the pine cone and have it represent

3119
02:05:51,669 --> 02:05:48,800
something

3120
02:05:53,510 --> 02:05:51,679
to them that's the part to me that is so

3121
02:05:54,550 --> 02:05:53,520
fascinating because you see pine cones

3122
02:05:56,950 --> 02:05:54,560
everywhere

3123
02:05:59,750 --> 02:05:56,960
and it's not because they're pine cones

3124
02:06:01,830 --> 02:05:59,760
they represent something else

3125
02:06:04,390 --> 02:06:01,840
right you know and they hide things in

3126
02:06:06,950 --> 02:06:04,400
plain sight

3127
02:06:11,990 --> 02:06:06,960
yeah absolutely like what i mean like on

3128
02:06:17,350 --> 02:06:15,030
yeah oh oh that's pretty yeah exactly

3129
02:06:18,709 --> 02:06:17,360
that's my point that's exactly my point

3130
02:06:20,550 --> 02:06:18,719
yes

3131
02:06:22,709 --> 02:06:20,560
and then and then you got to wonder if

3132
02:06:23,270 --> 02:06:22,719
you know if the templars were involved

3133
02:06:26,310 --> 02:06:23,280
or

3134
02:06:28,950 --> 02:06:26,320
uh the the masons right

3135
02:06:30,069 --> 02:06:28,960
right right so what did you think uh

3136
02:06:31,510 --> 02:06:30,079
there's a lot of drama

3137
02:06:33,430 --> 02:06:31,520
going on right now we've got stuff

3138
02:06:35,910 --> 02:06:33,440
happening in every direction and then

3139
02:06:37,109 --> 02:06:35,920
just as i say that every single night on

3140
02:06:40,629 --> 02:06:37,119
the show

3141
02:06:44,069 --> 02:06:40,639
here comes ray santilli with a frame

3142
02:06:48,709 --> 02:06:44,079
of the original alien autopsy film

3143
02:06:51,830 --> 02:06:48,719
clearly showing a body on on a table

3144
02:06:54,709 --> 02:06:51,840
what do you think is going on

3145
02:06:56,149 --> 02:06:54,719
i mean we got we have what's going on in

3146
02:06:58,069 --> 02:06:56,159
you know the paranormal

3147
02:06:59,510 --> 02:06:58,079
world and we've got everything else

3148
02:07:03,109 --> 02:06:59,520
going on and it's

3149
02:07:07,350 --> 02:07:03,119
it's crazy every day is crazy land

3150
02:07:09,030 --> 02:07:07,360
everything is i was talking to uh

3151
02:07:11,669 --> 02:07:09,040
i was talking to linda today linda

3152
02:07:12,149 --> 02:07:11,679
molten how and she's the best man she's

3153
02:07:14,950 --> 02:07:12,159
the best

3154
02:07:16,229 --> 02:07:14,960
and and those phone calls are just um i

3155
02:07:18,950 --> 02:07:16,239
actually emailed her

3156
02:07:20,390 --> 02:07:18,960
after uh we talked i said that was

3157
02:07:23,669 --> 02:07:20,400
another epic phone call

3158
02:07:24,629 --> 02:07:23,679
linda right and uh and i and i meant it

3159
02:07:27,589 --> 02:07:24,639
but

3160
02:07:28,550 --> 02:07:27,599
she was bringing up the points that

3161
02:07:31,990 --> 02:07:28,560
you're bringing

3162
02:07:34,470 --> 02:07:32,000
like jimmy what is going on i'm

3163
02:07:36,390 --> 02:07:34,480
linda what do you think is going on

3164
02:07:36,790 --> 02:07:36,400
there's this and there's this and this

3165
02:07:42,950 --> 02:07:36,800
this

3166
02:07:43,990 --> 02:07:42,960
like today with uh not only do we have

3167
02:07:48,149 --> 02:07:44,000
ray santilli

3168
02:07:51,109 --> 02:07:48,159
with this amazing uh frame of film

3169
02:07:52,390 --> 02:07:51,119
and uh you know jeremy corbell and we've

3170
02:07:54,870 --> 02:07:52,400
got uh

3171
02:07:56,470 --> 02:07:54,880
uh this uh amazing article by john

3172
02:07:59,910 --> 02:07:56,480
greenwald today

3173
02:08:03,109 --> 02:07:59,920
about the dod uh deleting

3174
02:08:05,430 --> 02:08:03,119
lou elizondo's emails now that is it

3175
02:08:07,109 --> 02:08:05,440
if that doesn't raise every conspiracy

3176
02:08:10,870 --> 02:08:07,119
flag in the world

3177
02:08:11,750 --> 02:08:10,880
right just right there of all things and

3178
02:08:18,390 --> 02:08:11,760
the dod

3179
02:08:20,470 --> 02:08:18,400
is very aware of lou elizondo uh

3180
02:08:22,149 --> 02:08:20,480
for the last uh four years since he

3181
02:08:25,189 --> 02:08:22,159
stepped up on stage with

3182
02:08:27,830 --> 02:08:25,199
tom delong distributed his letter that

3183
02:08:30,629 --> 02:08:27,840
he's leaving because of the ufo

3184
02:08:31,990 --> 02:08:30,639
uh situation in uaps in the military and

3185
02:08:35,589 --> 02:08:32,000
he's done he's quit

3186
02:08:36,229 --> 02:08:35,599
and he's joining ttsa they delete his

3187
02:08:38,149 --> 02:08:36,239
emails

3188
02:08:39,510 --> 02:08:38,159
the question is when did they do it did

3189
02:08:40,390 --> 02:08:39,520
they do it since he made the

3190
02:08:42,390 --> 02:08:40,400
announcement

3191
02:08:43,430 --> 02:08:42,400
did they go back and review his emails

3192
02:08:46,709 --> 02:08:43,440
and go you know what no

3193
02:08:48,229 --> 02:08:46,719
uh delete you know who's making these

3194
02:08:51,270 --> 02:08:48,239
decisions

3195
02:08:52,310 --> 02:08:51,280
i i the thing that the thing that the

3196
02:08:56,310 --> 02:08:52,320
thing that uh

3197
02:08:57,750 --> 02:08:56,320
uh kind of hit me on that jimmy is

3198
02:08:59,910 --> 02:08:57,760
whatever it was it was a pretty

3199
02:09:02,310 --> 02:08:59,920
ham-handed move because

3200
02:09:04,149 --> 02:09:02,320
if you did that in industry you'd be

3201
02:09:06,069 --> 02:09:04,159
going you'd be going to jail or you'd be

3202
02:09:08,629 --> 02:09:06,079
talking to lawyers

3203
02:09:10,310 --> 02:09:08,639
there's no question about it how can how

3204
02:09:13,510 --> 02:09:10,320
can dod get away with that

3205
02:09:15,669 --> 02:09:13,520
and have it be out in the public yeah no

3206
02:09:18,950 --> 02:09:15,679
question about it no question about it

3207
02:09:21,830 --> 02:09:18,960
i'm like but it affects

3208
02:09:24,470 --> 02:09:21,840
two different things here i need

3209
02:09:27,589 --> 02:09:24,480
everybody to understand

3210
02:09:30,790 --> 02:09:27,599
now the dod cannot

3211
02:09:32,790 --> 02:09:30,800
back up their statements on lou elizondo

3212
02:09:34,790 --> 02:09:32,800
that he had nothing to do with atip

3213
02:09:36,229 --> 02:09:34,800
now they can't back up those statements

3214
02:09:39,350 --> 02:09:36,239
now lou cannot

3215
02:09:40,310 --> 02:09:39,360
back up his statements that he did right

3216
02:09:43,910 --> 02:09:40,320
so you can't

3217
02:09:47,350 --> 02:09:43,920
prove or disprove either side

3218
02:09:48,790 --> 02:09:47,360
of this situation that we all find

3219
02:09:51,830 --> 02:09:48,800
ourselves in

3220
02:09:54,950 --> 02:09:51,840
that's you don't do that i

3221
02:09:57,990 --> 02:09:54,960
i am i am absolutely blown away by this

3222
02:10:01,189 --> 02:09:58,000
what's going on with uh danny sheehan

3223
02:10:04,550 --> 02:10:01,199
and uh the uh the ig and

3224
02:10:07,669 --> 02:10:04,560
uh the investigation that is going on

3225
02:10:11,030 --> 02:10:07,679
um that uh

3226
02:10:14,390 --> 02:10:11,040
from uh danny sheen's efforts as

3227
02:10:16,069 --> 02:10:14,400
lou's attorney and and we know that this

3228
02:10:18,390 --> 02:10:16,079
investigation is happening

3229
02:10:20,550 --> 02:10:18,400
and now there's suddenly no emails for

3230
02:10:23,830 --> 02:10:20,560
the ig to go and look at

3231
02:10:27,109 --> 02:10:23,840
what huh right do you think

3232
02:10:30,149 --> 02:10:27,119
man do you think they did do you think

3233
02:10:30,550 --> 02:10:30,159
uh 15 18 years ago they did the same

3234
02:10:33,669 --> 02:10:30,560
thing

3235
02:10:34,229 --> 02:10:33,679
to oh i'm having brain fade here uh the

3236
02:10:37,669 --> 02:10:34,239
guy that

3237
02:10:38,310 --> 02:10:37,679
exposed uh area 51. oh no bob lazaro not

3238
02:10:40,149 --> 02:10:38,320
snowden

3239
02:10:41,669 --> 02:10:40,159
bob lazar do you think they did this do

3240
02:10:42,709 --> 02:10:41,679
you think they did the same thing to bob

3241
02:10:45,830 --> 02:10:42,719
lazar

3242
02:10:48,709 --> 02:10:45,840
um no

3243
02:10:49,430 --> 02:10:48,719
no no you don't think that they uh they

3244
02:11:01,510 --> 02:10:49,440
no

3245
02:11:02,870 --> 02:11:01,520
um i'm saying that they didn't erase

3246
02:11:04,229 --> 02:11:02,880
anything because there was nothing to

3247
02:11:06,950 --> 02:11:04,239
erase

3248
02:11:09,030 --> 02:11:06,960
okay um at sandia his name is in the

3249
02:11:11,189 --> 02:11:09,040
phone book but everybody's name

3250
02:11:12,629 --> 02:11:11,199
was in the phone book the janitor's name

3251
02:11:14,870 --> 02:11:12,639
was in the phone book

3252
02:11:16,790 --> 02:11:14,880
uh so that doesn't that does that that

3253
02:11:19,109 --> 02:11:16,800
proves that he was

3254
02:11:20,550 --> 02:11:19,119
did something at sandia i don't know

3255
02:11:21,990 --> 02:11:20,560
what he was could have been a cook in

3256
02:11:25,189 --> 02:11:22,000
the cafeteria

3257
02:11:28,310 --> 02:11:25,199
um so there's there's that part but uh

3258
02:11:31,830 --> 02:11:28,320
we're talking about 1988

3259
02:11:32,550 --> 02:11:31,840
uh computer records like that going back

3260
02:11:35,750 --> 02:11:32,560
then

3261
02:11:37,430 --> 02:11:35,760
no it didn't exist that way and going

3262
02:11:40,709 --> 02:11:37,440
back to school

3263
02:11:42,629 --> 02:11:40,719
and and caltech and mit and these other

3264
02:11:45,669 --> 02:11:42,639
claims about his education

3265
02:11:48,870 --> 02:11:45,679
that was all done on paper and

3266
02:11:51,589 --> 02:11:48,880
where are what they went and sanitized

3267
02:11:53,030 --> 02:11:51,599
the yearbooks right they went and

3268
02:11:56,149 --> 02:11:53,040
sanitized

3269
02:11:58,229 --> 02:11:56,159
hard copy school records test every test

3270
02:11:59,910 --> 02:11:58,239
every paper that he ever wrote every

3271
02:12:03,830 --> 02:11:59,920
that piece of homework

3272
02:12:07,350 --> 02:12:03,840
what they went and removed all of that

3273
02:12:10,390 --> 02:12:07,360
no no no it's it's one thing today to

3274
02:12:12,790 --> 02:12:10,400
uh erase emails i get that

3275
02:12:13,669 --> 02:12:12,800
you cannot uh it would be a very

3276
02:12:16,709 --> 02:12:13,679
difficult thing

3277
02:12:18,069 --> 02:12:16,719
in the electronic age uh with computers

3278
02:12:19,510 --> 02:12:18,079
and backups and hard drives and

3279
02:12:21,189 --> 02:12:19,520
everything else to just completely

3280
02:12:22,629 --> 02:12:21,199
remove somebody's existence i'm not

3281
02:12:25,109 --> 02:12:22,639
saying it's not possible

3282
02:12:25,910 --> 02:12:25,119
sure anything is possible but with bob

3283
02:12:28,950 --> 02:12:25,920
lazar

3284
02:12:30,550 --> 02:12:28,960
no that was a different world back then

3285
02:12:32,550 --> 02:12:30,560
so for lou you'd think there'd be more

3286
02:12:35,669 --> 02:12:32,560
work product than just emails

3287
02:12:38,790 --> 02:12:35,679
well i've i've i've said this uh

3288
02:12:39,430 --> 02:12:38,800
publicly and and i know that this is the

3289
02:12:43,270 --> 02:12:39,440
case

3290
02:12:45,189 --> 02:12:43,280
okay uh okay lou is sitting on

3291
02:12:46,310 --> 02:12:45,199
he has his own evidence of his

3292
02:12:49,830 --> 02:12:46,320
employment

3293
02:12:52,390 --> 02:12:49,840
he's got papers sure he's got things um

3294
02:12:53,270 --> 02:12:52,400
it's not i don't think the onus is

3295
02:12:58,149 --> 02:12:53,280
necessarily

3296
02:13:01,270 --> 02:12:58,159
on him to present this until he has to

3297
02:13:04,470 --> 02:13:01,280
um but no he doesn't have to do that

3298
02:13:07,109 --> 02:13:04,480
for the pentagon uh to make uh these

3299
02:13:07,750 --> 02:13:07,119
very direct statements he had no

3300
02:13:10,310 --> 02:13:07,760
assigned

3301
02:13:12,310 --> 02:13:10,320
responsibilities to atip that's on the

3302
02:13:15,990 --> 02:13:12,320
pentagon to proof

3303
02:13:19,430 --> 02:13:16,000
right right where how can you for susan

3304
02:13:21,270 --> 02:13:19,440
gao to say that she is pulling her

3305
02:13:22,950 --> 02:13:21,280
information from somewhere because it

3306
02:13:26,390 --> 02:13:22,960
was definitive

3307
02:13:29,430 --> 02:13:26,400
it wasn't oh i we don't think he had

3308
02:13:32,550 --> 02:13:29,440
anything no it's not that they said

3309
02:13:34,950 --> 02:13:32,560
he had no assigned duties

3310
02:13:36,709 --> 02:13:34,960
right the original statement was he had

3311
02:13:39,750 --> 02:13:36,719
nothing to do with atip and then

3312
02:13:40,870 --> 02:13:39,760
later they refined that statement to i'm

3313
02:13:44,390 --> 02:13:40,880
paraphrasing here

3314
02:13:47,189 --> 02:13:44,400
he had no assigned duties uh for atip

3315
02:13:47,430 --> 02:13:47,199
which is suggesting he worked with atip

3316
02:13:51,669 --> 02:13:47,440
in

3317
02:13:53,910 --> 02:13:51,679
official capacity

3318
02:13:54,790 --> 02:13:53,920
you know wasn't part of his uh pay grade

3319
02:13:59,030 --> 02:13:54,800
so i

3320
02:14:02,149 --> 02:13:59,040
i i don't know but to erase the emails

3321
02:14:05,030 --> 02:14:02,159
that uh that that complicates things and

3322
02:14:05,350 --> 02:14:05,040
uh for everybody now you know what if

3323
02:14:12,229 --> 02:14:05,360
i'm

3324
02:14:15,270 --> 02:14:12,239
i told you right yeah

3325
02:14:17,109 --> 02:14:15,280
yeah he's in the position to just go i

3326
02:14:18,629 --> 02:14:17,119
told him the emails are deleted but

3327
02:14:21,030 --> 02:14:18,639
everything that i said is true

3328
02:14:22,310 --> 02:14:21,040
well that that that's uh pretty cool for

3329
02:14:24,149 --> 02:14:22,320
lou and that was the posi

3330
02:14:25,350 --> 02:14:24,159
that be the position that i would take

3331
02:14:29,270 --> 02:14:25,360
right now

3332
02:14:31,990 --> 02:14:29,280
um uh they deleted my emails because

3333
02:14:32,550 --> 02:14:32,000
uh that was the proof of everything and

3334
02:14:34,870 --> 02:14:32,560
and now

3335
02:14:36,310 --> 02:14:34,880
uh i stand on everything that i've said

3336
02:14:37,910 --> 02:14:36,320
and i'm not gonna change

3337
02:14:39,669 --> 02:14:37,920
anything that's what i would say if i

3338
02:14:41,350 --> 02:14:39,679
was luke 100

3339
02:14:43,430 --> 02:14:41,360
right and he has the right to do that i

3340
02:14:46,550 --> 02:14:43,440
would be offended

3341
02:14:47,750 --> 02:14:46,560
i would be so angry so i'll see if i can

3342
02:14:49,910 --> 02:14:47,760
get him on the show

3343
02:14:51,990 --> 02:14:49,920
all right bill have a great night thank

3344
02:14:53,910 --> 02:14:52,000
you for the phone call

3345
02:14:55,750 --> 02:14:53,920
can i have one more quickie uh it's

3346
02:14:57,669 --> 02:14:55,760
gotta be quick have you

3347
02:14:59,030 --> 02:14:57,679
have you ever interviewed uh travis

3348
02:15:02,629 --> 02:14:59,040
taylor

3349
02:15:04,229 --> 02:15:02,639
no no i think i think he needs

3350
02:15:05,990 --> 02:15:04,239
he needs to be introduced to the fade or

3351
02:15:08,950 --> 02:15:06,000
not okay well

3352
02:15:09,669 --> 02:15:08,960
um i can uh i can look into it it's easy

3353
02:15:11,750 --> 02:15:09,679
enough to do

3354
02:15:13,030 --> 02:15:11,760
i i can see what i can do okay i'll talk

3355
02:15:14,069 --> 02:15:13,040
to you i think he'd be a really

3356
02:15:15,510 --> 02:15:14,079
interesting guest

3357
02:15:17,750 --> 02:15:15,520
thank you jimmy i'll talk to you bill

3358
02:15:20,870 --> 02:15:17,760
thank you so much and uh

3359
02:15:23,669 --> 02:15:20,880
i'd like to take uh taylor out to dinner

3360
02:15:24,790 --> 02:15:23,679
i think that would be a lot of fun um he

3361
02:15:28,390 --> 02:15:24,800
seems like a very

3362
02:15:31,589 --> 02:15:28,400
very interesting guy um done a lot

3363
02:15:33,830 --> 02:15:31,599
too there's a there's uh he's he's been

3364
02:15:36,870 --> 02:15:33,840
at the right place at the right time

3365
02:15:37,669 --> 02:15:36,880
with a lot of different things um i

3366
02:15:40,870 --> 02:15:37,679
think he

3367
02:15:41,990 --> 02:15:40,880
didn't he i need somebody to i'm gonna

3368
02:15:45,830 --> 02:15:42,000
bounce over

3369
02:15:49,030 --> 02:15:45,840
um uh let's see um

3370
02:15:52,310 --> 02:15:49,040
i'm gonna stay here i'm gonna

3371
02:15:54,550 --> 02:15:52,320
see who's first if it'll be uh youtube

3372
02:15:56,069 --> 02:15:54,560
or twitter i've got them both open

3373
02:16:01,270 --> 02:15:56,079
didn't he

3374
02:16:04,870 --> 02:16:03,510
right did he appear on the curse of bulk

3375
02:16:08,069 --> 02:16:04,880
island so

3376
02:16:11,030 --> 02:16:08,079
did he do did he do

3377
02:16:12,629 --> 02:16:11,040
ancient aliens curse of oak island and

3378
02:16:16,870 --> 02:16:12,639
skin walker

3379
02:16:20,310 --> 02:16:16,880
and of course dianne piselko's book um

3380
02:16:23,270 --> 02:16:20,320
uh the bledsoes you know

3381
02:16:25,030 --> 02:16:23,280
he's he's had his he's had his toes

3382
02:16:25,830 --> 02:16:25,040
dipped in a lot of different swimming

3383
02:16:29,669 --> 02:16:25,840
pools

3384
02:16:32,549 --> 02:16:29,679
i'm just saying very interesting guy

3385
02:16:34,070 --> 02:16:32,559
so i will uh i will defer that let's see

3386
02:16:37,750 --> 02:16:34,080
i'm going to bounce over to twitter

3387
02:16:40,309 --> 02:16:37,760
did travis appear taylor that was

3388
02:16:42,070 --> 02:16:40,319
it was travis taylor right did he did he

3389
02:16:44,230 --> 02:16:42,080
appear on the curse of bulk island

3390
02:16:45,270 --> 02:16:44,240
i'm throwing that out there first let's

3391
02:16:46,549 --> 02:16:45,280
go back to the phones hi

3392
02:16:49,750 --> 02:16:46,559
you're live on fade to black who's

3393
02:16:50,309 --> 02:16:49,760
calling hey jimmy it's carrie in palm

3394
02:16:53,910 --> 02:16:50,319
springs

3395
02:16:56,549 --> 02:16:53,920
hi carrie i am fantastic how are you

3396
02:16:57,429 --> 02:16:56,559
i'm good thank you you're spoiled i know

3397
02:16:59,429 --> 02:16:57,439
you've had a

3398
02:17:00,629 --> 02:16:59,439
week and thank you for giving us all

3399
02:17:02,790 --> 02:17:00,639
your energy and um

3400
02:17:05,429 --> 02:17:02,800
my condolences to you yeah thank you for

3401
02:17:08,709 --> 02:17:05,439
that but you're still spoiled

3402
02:17:10,070 --> 02:17:08,719
we are so spoiled you bring it to us i

3403
02:17:11,990 --> 02:17:10,080
mean you must be running on

3404
02:17:13,270 --> 02:17:12,000
fumes and yet you've had just like an

3405
02:17:16,309 --> 02:17:13,280
amazing

3406
02:17:17,429 --> 02:17:16,319
week of shows well you know if you

3407
02:17:20,469 --> 02:17:17,439
really think about it

3408
02:17:23,750 --> 02:17:20,479
um uh the

3409
02:17:24,629 --> 02:17:23,760
exhaustion and and and where you know my

3410
02:17:28,709 --> 02:17:24,639
family is

3411
02:17:31,669 --> 02:17:28,719
right now and uh uh you know it just

3412
02:17:33,509 --> 02:17:31,679
right okay yes and then you come back

3413
02:17:35,830 --> 02:17:33,519
and i'm being very serious you come back

3414
02:17:36,870 --> 02:17:35,840
and and you've got a great week of shows

3415
02:17:40,230 --> 02:17:36,880
in front of you

3416
02:17:41,990 --> 02:17:40,240
that is uh a way for me to get focused

3417
02:17:44,709 --> 02:17:42,000
and and get the energy up there's no

3418
02:17:45,669 --> 02:17:44,719
doubt about it but let me just say this

3419
02:17:49,509 --> 02:17:45,679
tonight

3420
02:17:51,589 --> 02:17:49,519
ray santilli that was super cool

3421
02:17:54,629 --> 02:17:51,599
it was pretty cool man that's pretty

3422
02:17:56,389 --> 02:17:54,639
cool that'll take my mind off things

3423
02:17:57,990 --> 02:17:56,399
so what'd you think what do you think is

3424
02:18:01,270 --> 02:17:58,000
going on with this uh this

3425
02:18:04,150 --> 02:18:01,280
frame of film well

3426
02:18:05,349 --> 02:18:04,160
you know the most interesting part is

3427
02:18:07,589 --> 02:18:05,359
the little

3428
02:18:09,509 --> 02:18:07,599
hands of the creature they're kind of

3429
02:18:13,030 --> 02:18:09,519
frayed at the end

3430
02:18:16,629 --> 02:18:13,040
that's just bizarre looking to me that's

3431
02:18:17,990 --> 02:18:16,639
that seems otherworldly the rest of it

3432
02:18:21,270 --> 02:18:18,000
you know i don't know i'm on the fence

3433
02:18:25,509 --> 02:18:21,280
i'll be honest i'm on the fence too

3434
02:18:28,629 --> 02:18:25,519
um look it's very easy to go come on man

3435
02:18:29,349 --> 02:18:28,639
ah nah nah i'm not going down this road

3436
02:18:32,870 --> 02:18:29,359
again

3437
02:18:36,230 --> 02:18:32,880
right i totally get it totally get it

3438
02:18:39,990 --> 02:18:36,240
i am a bit confused

3439
02:18:43,589 --> 02:18:40,000
about how that body

3440
02:18:47,429 --> 02:18:43,599
gets into the film unless it wasn't shot

3441
02:18:48,950 --> 02:18:47,439
in 1947. that's um i'm a bit

3442
02:18:51,349 --> 02:18:48,960
that's why i step back and i go there's

3443
02:18:55,030 --> 02:18:51,359
a possibility here

3444
02:18:58,790 --> 02:18:55,040
that this is what it is which

3445
02:19:02,309 --> 02:18:58,800
it appears to be uh an alien body

3446
02:19:05,429 --> 02:19:02,319
on on a slab and and i agree with

3447
02:19:08,950 --> 02:19:05,439
uh with ray i mean i've looked at this

3448
02:19:12,070 --> 02:19:08,960
from every angle um i i agree with

3449
02:19:14,150 --> 02:19:12,080
with ray that the only way real way to

3450
02:19:17,429 --> 02:19:14,160
get anything like that done

3451
02:19:18,870 --> 02:19:17,439
is you put some film in a camera in 1947

3452
02:19:21,990 --> 02:19:18,880
and you shoot something

3453
02:19:22,950 --> 02:19:22,000
right and then there's yeah and there's

3454
02:19:24,950 --> 02:19:22,960
the other parts

3455
02:19:26,309 --> 02:19:24,960
uh about this you know the debris field

3456
02:19:28,309 --> 02:19:26,319
the crash site

3457
02:19:29,509 --> 02:19:28,319
that's pretty interesting now i didn't

3458
02:19:33,429 --> 02:19:29,519
know

3459
02:19:35,030 --> 02:19:33,439
that's uh i think it's a long shot the

3460
02:19:37,349 --> 02:19:35,040
he said that that was a separate piece

3461
02:19:39,429 --> 02:19:37,359
of film that showed the uh

3462
02:19:41,830 --> 02:19:39,439
the the control panels or plates or

3463
02:19:44,870 --> 02:19:41,840
whatever those were with the handprints

3464
02:19:47,910 --> 02:19:44,880
and uh the i-beam um

3465
02:19:49,910 --> 02:19:47,920
and i forgot to to go at him uh with

3466
02:19:54,630 --> 02:19:49,920
another line of questions

3467
02:19:58,309 --> 02:19:54,640
about where that piece of film came from

3468
02:19:59,190 --> 02:19:58,319
you know i'm i'm a bit confused about

3469
02:20:01,429 --> 02:19:59,200
that

3470
02:20:03,190 --> 02:20:01,439
i'll see if i can get some clarity and

3471
02:20:04,710 --> 02:20:03,200
i'll speak to some others i'll see what

3472
02:20:06,950 --> 02:20:04,720
i can find out

3473
02:20:08,150 --> 02:20:06,960
i thought that that was all recreation

3474
02:20:11,510 --> 02:20:08,160
too that's what i thought

3475
02:20:13,030 --> 02:20:11,520
but yeah man my memory but uh he

3476
02:20:14,710 --> 02:20:13,040
certainly uh

3477
02:20:16,469 --> 02:20:14,720
certainly straightened me out on that i

3478
02:20:18,710 --> 02:20:16,479
was completely surprised but that's the

3479
02:20:21,030 --> 02:20:18,720
best part of of live radio

3480
02:20:22,790 --> 02:20:21,040
so what do you think um what do you

3481
02:20:24,710 --> 02:20:22,800
think is ultimately going to happen is

3482
02:20:27,270 --> 02:20:24,720
this going to

3483
02:20:29,030 --> 02:20:27,280
turn into another media circus if this

3484
02:20:31,590 --> 02:20:29,040
thing sells for 10 million

3485
02:20:32,790 --> 02:20:31,600
and now somebody is in possession of a

3486
02:20:34,790 --> 02:20:32,800
piece of film that

3487
02:20:37,349 --> 02:20:34,800
ray said himself he hasn't even looked

3488
02:20:39,750 --> 02:20:37,359
at it in 20 years

3489
02:20:42,070 --> 02:20:39,760
i i think it would bring attention if it

3490
02:20:42,830 --> 02:20:42,080
sells for a high price even if it sells

3491
02:20:45,750 --> 02:20:42,840
for the

3492
02:20:46,790 --> 02:20:45,760
low lowest bid which is you know a

3493
02:20:49,110 --> 02:20:46,800
million bucks

3494
02:20:50,309 --> 02:20:49,120
i think it's gonna sell or is it a

3495
02:20:52,309 --> 02:20:50,319
million five

3496
02:20:53,670 --> 02:20:52,319
anyhow i think it you know i think it's

3497
02:20:55,990 --> 02:20:53,680
likely gonna sell

3498
02:20:58,389 --> 02:20:56,000
and i think that'll create some buzz how

3499
02:21:00,389 --> 02:20:58,399
much i don't know but it'll probably

3500
02:21:02,790 --> 02:21:00,399
create some buzz

3501
02:21:03,990 --> 02:21:02,800
it's a it's uh you think about

3502
02:21:07,429 --> 02:21:04,000
everything that happened

3503
02:21:10,710 --> 02:21:07,439
just today with you i mean

3504
02:21:13,590 --> 02:21:10,720
just today oh i know it

3505
02:21:15,030 --> 02:21:13,600
it's it's like uh yeah every day so i

3506
02:21:18,389 --> 02:21:15,040
watched the

3507
02:21:21,270 --> 02:21:18,399
the radar feed on the uss uh

3508
02:21:21,830 --> 02:21:21,280
oh yeah what'd you think i i thought it

3509
02:21:28,790 --> 02:21:21,840
was

3510
02:21:32,150 --> 02:21:28,800
you know the blips do go

3511
02:21:35,030 --> 02:21:32,160
off they do disappear a few times

3512
02:21:36,150 --> 02:21:35,040
so i mean it's interesting you know it's

3513
02:21:39,190 --> 02:21:36,160
you can't hang your hat

3514
02:21:39,990 --> 02:21:39,200
on it i think it's actually i think it's

3515
02:21:42,630 --> 02:21:40,000
more interesting

3516
02:21:43,270 --> 02:21:42,640
than the triangular video because i

3517
02:21:46,790 --> 02:21:43,280
think that

3518
02:21:49,429 --> 02:21:46,800
is like a digital display some sort of

3519
02:21:51,429 --> 02:21:49,439
um noise or artifact as if you're

3520
02:21:54,469 --> 02:21:51,439
shooting straight up on something

3521
02:21:56,950 --> 02:21:54,479
and the camera lens is is

3522
02:21:58,230 --> 02:21:56,960
concave and so you're picking up

3523
02:22:01,030 --> 02:21:58,240
artifact it's just

3524
02:22:01,830 --> 02:22:01,040
shining on the portion of the that's

3525
02:22:04,950 --> 02:22:01,840
captured

3526
02:22:07,590 --> 02:22:04,960
from the lens angle which could be

3527
02:22:09,030 --> 02:22:07,600
triangular that's my impression of that

3528
02:22:12,710 --> 02:22:09,040
but i could be wrong

3529
02:22:14,710 --> 02:22:12,720
um so i thought that was you know

3530
02:22:15,990 --> 02:22:14,720
interesting that we get another you know

3531
02:22:18,710 --> 02:22:16,000
leak of something

3532
02:22:19,349 --> 02:22:18,720
you know uh and then all this stuff

3533
02:22:21,990 --> 02:22:19,359
going on

3534
02:22:22,550 --> 02:22:22,000
with lou you know this is fascinating i

3535
02:22:25,270 --> 02:22:22,560
think it's

3536
02:22:27,510 --> 02:22:25,280
convenient the government's like let's

3537
02:22:31,510 --> 02:22:27,520
confuse everything let's say he

3538
02:22:34,469 --> 02:22:31,520
let's deny he had any assigned duties

3539
02:22:35,270 --> 02:22:34,479
there you know let's destroy any paper

3540
02:22:37,510 --> 02:22:35,280
trail

3541
02:22:39,750 --> 02:22:37,520
because what if this goes sideways

3542
02:22:41,590 --> 02:22:39,760
although i think just a gut feeling from

3543
02:22:44,950 --> 02:22:41,600
the very beginning

3544
02:22:48,230 --> 02:22:44,960
that lou has been working that is

3545
02:22:49,670 --> 02:22:48,240
this whole you know everything that he's

3546
02:22:49,990 --> 02:22:49,680
done since he left the government is

3547
02:22:52,150 --> 02:22:50,000
some

3548
02:22:53,670 --> 02:22:52,160
sort of campaigning that he's doing on

3549
02:22:54,950 --> 02:22:53,680
the behalf of the government that he's

3550
02:22:57,670 --> 02:22:54,960
been assigned to do

3551
02:22:59,110 --> 02:22:57,680
frankly some sort of psychological

3552
02:23:02,309 --> 02:22:59,120
operation

3553
02:23:03,030 --> 02:23:02,319
a psyop but what that is i never can

3554
02:23:05,750 --> 02:23:03,040
figure out the

3555
02:23:06,710 --> 02:23:05,760
angle is it to confuse us is it to

3556
02:23:09,510 --> 02:23:06,720
inform us

3557
02:23:10,389 --> 02:23:09,520
is it to prepare us i i can't never

3558
02:23:13,270 --> 02:23:10,399
figure out the

3559
02:23:15,510 --> 02:23:13,280
angle so if he is on a psyops mission

3560
02:23:18,710 --> 02:23:15,520
it's not extremely clear

3561
02:23:21,270 --> 02:23:18,720
sometimes so well this

3562
02:23:23,110 --> 02:23:21,280
is um and i've only got a minute uh

3563
02:23:26,230 --> 02:23:23,120
before i have to break here but

3564
02:23:27,910 --> 02:23:26,240
this is something that i think everybody

3565
02:23:30,950 --> 02:23:27,920
should understand

3566
02:23:35,270 --> 02:23:30,960
lou left his position

3567
02:23:36,389 --> 02:23:35,280
in october of 2017 before the new york

3568
02:23:38,630 --> 02:23:36,399
times article

3569
02:23:39,910 --> 02:23:38,640
he left it a couple of days or the day

3570
02:23:45,510 --> 02:23:39,920
before

3571
02:23:46,469 --> 02:23:45,520
to the stars academy live uh

3572
02:23:49,910 --> 02:23:46,479
presentation

3573
02:23:53,830 --> 02:23:49,920
the live stream announcing everything so

3574
02:23:57,030 --> 02:23:53,840
that was four years ago how

3575
02:24:00,710 --> 02:23:57,040
is it that they erased

3576
02:24:04,150 --> 02:24:00,720
his emails without a backup in the last

3577
02:24:06,870 --> 02:24:04,160
four years it's not like it's a 10 year

3578
02:24:13,190 --> 02:24:09,990
email file it is

3579
02:24:15,830 --> 02:24:13,200
very very very recent

3580
02:24:17,910 --> 02:24:15,840
and they knew publicly what he had said

3581
02:24:20,150 --> 02:24:17,920
and they knew publicly that he had uh

3582
02:24:22,230 --> 02:24:20,160
released this letter his resignation

3583
02:24:25,510 --> 02:24:22,240
letter it had to do with ufos

3584
02:24:27,190 --> 02:24:25,520
i would think that that he that's the

3585
02:24:30,389 --> 02:24:27,200
last email that you would be

3586
02:24:32,230 --> 02:24:30,399
erasing right that's not something that

3587
02:24:35,510 --> 02:24:32,240
you just do right now

3588
02:24:37,270 --> 02:24:35,520
so why if if i am

3589
02:24:39,510 --> 02:24:37,280
in the department of defense if i'm the

3590
02:24:40,150 --> 02:24:39,520
ig if i'm the inspector general right

3591
02:24:41,830 --> 02:24:40,160
now

3592
02:24:43,190 --> 02:24:41,840
and i'm in the middle of this i'm gonna

3593
02:24:46,870 --> 02:24:43,200
so who

3594
02:24:50,469 --> 02:24:46,880
erased his files and why

3595
02:24:52,469 --> 02:24:50,479
because right now i need those files

3596
02:24:53,910 --> 02:24:52,479
and you're telling me they're erased

3597
02:24:56,309 --> 02:24:53,920
that wouldn't fly

3598
02:24:57,750 --> 02:24:56,319
in congress in an investigation an

3599
02:25:00,309 --> 02:24:57,760
impeachment

3600
02:25:02,309 --> 02:25:00,319
you know some criminal uh you're in the

3601
02:25:03,510 --> 02:25:02,319
middle of a grand jury or a special

3602
02:25:05,510 --> 02:25:03,520
grand jury

3603
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and you're the prosecutor and then you

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find out that the files that you need on

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the case that you're prosecuting just

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happen to be

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deleted without a backup that's not

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gonna fly

3609
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right now this is i think this is a very

3610
02:25:24,230 --> 02:25:21,920
very big deal

3611
02:25:25,590 --> 02:25:24,240
the core bell radar video who gives a

3612
02:25:26,950 --> 02:25:25,600
crap you know there's nothing in that

3613
02:25:27,830 --> 02:25:26,960
doesn't even matter it doesn't move the

3614
02:25:30,550 --> 02:25:27,840
needle

3615
02:25:31,670 --> 02:25:30,560
but it's interesting that uh it was

3616
02:25:33,830 --> 02:25:31,680
announced today

3617
02:25:35,190 --> 02:25:33,840
and it stirred a lot and people are

3618
02:25:36,950 --> 02:25:35,200
reacting to it

3619
02:25:38,790 --> 02:25:36,960
and then we have everything else that is

3620
02:25:42,150 --> 02:25:38,800
happening at the same time there is

3621
02:25:44,469 --> 02:25:42,160
a lot happening every day there's

3622
02:25:46,230 --> 02:25:44,479
something popping a quick comment

3623
02:25:50,150 --> 02:25:46,240
regarding the pine cone

3624
02:25:52,550 --> 02:25:50,160
you know the pine cone is sort of the

3625
02:25:55,110 --> 02:25:52,560
quintessential example of fibonacci

3626
02:25:58,070 --> 02:25:55,120
sequence the mathematical equation

3627
02:25:59,030 --> 02:25:58,080
each and every pine cone and other items

3628
02:26:02,710 --> 02:25:59,040
in nature

3629
02:26:06,950 --> 02:26:02,720
follow exactly the same uh mathematical

3630
02:26:10,870 --> 02:26:06,960
sequence yes each pinecone is

3631
02:26:13,270 --> 02:26:10,880
mathematically the same if you will

3632
02:26:15,429 --> 02:26:13,280
in how it's structured through the

3633
02:26:18,710 --> 02:26:15,439
fibonacci sequence which was

3634
02:26:19,510 --> 02:26:18,720
you know discovered by the scientist

3635
02:26:22,309 --> 02:26:19,520
fibonacci

3636
02:26:24,550 --> 02:26:22,319
back in the i don't know the 1500s or

3637
02:26:28,469 --> 02:26:24,560
something so i just think that's a very

3638
02:26:31,670 --> 02:26:28,479
um a poignant uh

3639
02:26:34,870 --> 02:26:31,680
point to bring up because the pine cone

3640
02:26:38,230 --> 02:26:34,880
appearing in ancient art and ancient

3641
02:26:39,110 --> 02:26:38,240
alien artifacts at the vatican i think

3642
02:26:41,030 --> 02:26:39,120
it points to

3643
02:26:43,830 --> 02:26:41,040
intelligent design because of the

3644
02:26:49,270 --> 02:26:43,840
fibonacci sequence mathematical equation

3645
02:26:52,070 --> 02:26:49,280
of how pine cones and other natural

3646
02:26:53,270 --> 02:26:52,080
you know natural items occur so i think

3647
02:26:56,469 --> 02:26:53,280
that's interesting

3648
02:26:57,349 --> 02:26:56,479
a little tidbit there so pine cones yes

3649
02:27:00,950 --> 02:26:57,359
fascinating

3650
02:27:02,630 --> 02:27:00,960
and they do seem to relate to our pineal

3651
02:27:05,429 --> 02:27:02,640
gland that is roughly

3652
02:27:05,910 --> 02:27:05,439
shaped like a pine cone very small pine

3653
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cone

3654
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but yes that check out the big brain on

3655
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kerry and palm springs carrie

3656
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enjoy your weekend we'll see on monday

3657
02:27:18,550 --> 02:27:14,800
see you monday

3658
02:27:21,110 --> 02:27:18,560
thanks jimmy fade to blast fade to black

3659
02:27:22,710 --> 02:27:21,120
carrie in palm springs thank you so much

3660
02:27:24,150 --> 02:27:22,720
and with that i got to take a break i

3661
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got to get out of here but i'll be back

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and i will take

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the rest of your phone calls once one

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segment left seven

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four seven two two eight two zero five

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one this is fade to black it's fader

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night i'll be right back

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3768
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3769
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jimmy church what a great night on the

3770
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absolutely perfect

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that is on hold

3775
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so let's just burn right through it i'm

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going to go straight to it hi you're

3777
02:33:04,230 --> 02:33:02,080
live i'm fade to black who's calling

3778
02:33:05,510 --> 02:33:04,240
hi jimmy this is the sophia logos

3779
02:33:09,510 --> 02:33:05,520
principal urea

3780
02:33:10,070 --> 02:33:09,520
how are you um i'm really good i've had

3781
02:33:16,790 --> 02:33:10,080
a lot of

3782
02:33:17,510 --> 02:33:16,800
been experiencing some ships and some

3783
02:33:21,670 --> 02:33:17,520
beings

3784
02:33:25,110 --> 02:33:21,680
uh visitations uh daily right on

3785
02:33:28,150 --> 02:33:25,120
right now yeah yeah i i i started seeing

3786
02:33:29,110 --> 02:33:28,160
um in february i started seeing like

3787
02:33:32,070 --> 02:33:29,120
this cobalt

3788
02:33:33,750 --> 02:33:32,080
blue light streaming down from the sky

3789
02:33:35,750 --> 02:33:33,760
and i remembered

3790
02:33:38,150 --> 02:33:35,760
that when i was at uh contact in the

3791
02:33:40,630 --> 02:33:38,160
desert 2019

3792
02:33:41,990 --> 02:33:40,640
i saw a ship that no one else did except

3793
02:33:45,590 --> 02:33:42,000
for um

3794
02:33:47,429 --> 02:33:45,600
laura eisenhower and she and i both

3795
02:33:49,110 --> 02:33:47,439
saw it she said it with a snap she just

3796
02:33:50,870 --> 02:33:49,120
was like oh that's dope and that's an

3797
02:33:52,710 --> 02:33:50,880
egyptian [\h__\h] blah blah she was just

3798
02:33:55,750 --> 02:33:52,720
like so fast and i was like oh yeah

3799
02:33:58,070 --> 02:33:55,760
that's that's what i thought it was

3800
02:33:59,110 --> 02:33:58,080
and i hadn't seen any of those ships for

3801
02:34:02,230 --> 02:33:59,120
a long time

3802
02:34:05,830 --> 02:34:02,240
i i saw one the summer before

3803
02:34:07,990 --> 02:34:05,840
but um february 20th 21st was like some

3804
02:34:10,550 --> 02:34:08,000
kind of a switch over date for us

3805
02:34:12,630 --> 02:34:10,560
and they keep telling me that draco is

3806
02:34:15,030 --> 02:34:12,640
is not our host anymore and vega

3807
02:34:16,230 --> 02:34:15,040
is so we should be all experiencing a

3808
02:34:19,429 --> 02:34:16,240
lot more peace

3809
02:34:23,349 --> 02:34:19,439
every day from now on i hope so um

3810
02:34:25,429 --> 02:34:23,359
i hope so yeah these beings started like

3811
02:34:27,190 --> 02:34:25,439
it's like the the light would come down

3812
02:34:30,469 --> 02:34:27,200
from the sky because i could see

3813
02:34:33,349 --> 02:34:30,479
ships where other people just see clouds

3814
02:34:34,550 --> 02:34:33,359
and um the lights start coming down and

3815
02:34:37,830 --> 02:34:34,560
then they started coming

3816
02:34:39,750 --> 02:34:37,840
every sunset and like every day it was

3817
02:34:41,990 --> 02:34:39,760
just a little bit different like

3818
02:34:43,110 --> 02:34:42,000
the beings would be like closer and

3819
02:34:46,230 --> 02:34:43,120
there'd be more of them

3820
02:34:48,469 --> 02:34:46,240
and they'd be bigger until like

3821
02:34:49,910 --> 02:34:48,479
there were some that were just like five

3822
02:34:53,910 --> 02:34:49,920
stories tall

3823
02:34:55,750 --> 02:34:53,920
made out of lights um and then

3824
02:34:57,670 --> 02:34:55,760
something else happened that i don't

3825
02:35:00,710 --> 02:34:57,680
have this date memorized

3826
02:35:04,070 --> 02:35:00,720
but um they started um

3827
02:35:06,790 --> 02:35:04,080
showing up at my front door and

3828
02:35:07,429 --> 02:35:06,800
and what they were were like these weird

3829
02:35:11,590 --> 02:35:07,439
like

3830
02:35:14,790 --> 02:35:11,600
see through

3831
02:35:15,270 --> 02:35:14,800
light and each being would be like a

3832
02:35:18,230 --> 02:35:15,280
different

3833
02:35:19,429 --> 02:35:18,240
color of them but they would all like

3834
02:35:22,630 --> 02:35:19,439
make this same

3835
02:35:25,270 --> 02:35:22,640
kind of like video display

3836
02:35:25,990 --> 02:35:25,280
on themselves in an attempt to try and

3837
02:35:28,870 --> 02:35:26,000
communicate

3838
02:35:30,630 --> 02:35:28,880
with me without doing because it was

3839
02:35:32,150 --> 02:35:30,640
like they were trying to it took me so

3840
02:35:33,190 --> 02:35:32,160
long and i felt really dumb when i

3841
02:35:34,710 --> 02:35:33,200
realized it

3842
02:35:36,469 --> 02:35:34,720
they were trying to get me to use my

3843
02:35:39,590 --> 02:35:36,479
telepathy

3844
02:35:41,190 --> 02:35:39,600
because that's like really important and

3845
02:35:42,469 --> 02:35:41,200
these beings are coming to me just

3846
02:35:45,030 --> 02:35:42,479
basically going like

3847
02:35:46,950 --> 02:35:45,040
everybody needs to really focus on

3848
02:35:50,150 --> 02:35:46,960
telepathy right now

3849
02:35:51,110 --> 02:35:50,160
because telepathy directly affects the

3850
02:35:54,309 --> 02:35:51,120
morphogenic

3851
02:35:56,389 --> 02:35:54,319
field that holds us all it's the soup

3852
02:35:59,590 --> 02:35:56,399
that we're all floating in

3853
02:36:01,750 --> 02:35:59,600
and um just telepathy they keep

3854
02:36:03,270 --> 02:36:01,760
saying that but these beings came into

3855
02:36:06,469 --> 02:36:03,280
my home and

3856
02:36:09,510 --> 02:36:06,479
um they would

3857
02:36:11,270 --> 02:36:09,520
you take pictures like these messages i

3858
02:36:13,750 --> 02:36:11,280
tried to but all i could ever

3859
02:36:14,389 --> 02:36:13,760
get is just like something really vague

3860
02:36:16,790 --> 02:36:14,399
and

3861
02:36:17,990 --> 02:36:16,800
nobody wrote it's so weird it's like i'm

3862
02:36:20,389 --> 02:36:18,000
in a black hole

3863
02:36:21,190 --> 02:36:20,399
nobody's seeing my pictures everybody

3864
02:36:25,030 --> 02:36:21,200
just

3865
02:36:27,190 --> 02:36:25,040
isn't what it is on my

3866
02:36:30,070 --> 02:36:27,200
on my camera and computer i look at it

3867
02:36:32,150 --> 02:36:30,080
and then on social media the quality is

3868
02:36:41,190 --> 02:36:32,160
just so much worse no matter

3869
02:36:45,510 --> 02:36:43,830
so i'm in loveland colorado and i'm the

3870
02:36:48,870 --> 02:36:45,520
one that had the experience

3871
02:36:52,070 --> 02:36:48,880
um last summer that i felt like was yeti

3872
02:36:53,590 --> 02:36:52,080
out in carbondale and i've been

3873
02:36:55,910 --> 02:36:53,600
for the last three years since my

3874
02:36:58,870 --> 02:36:55,920
near-death experience my

3875
02:37:00,070 --> 02:36:58,880
my guides and every every alien visitor

3876
02:37:02,950 --> 02:37:00,080
that's come to me and it's been

3877
02:37:06,469 --> 02:37:02,960
thousands they all call me oracle

3878
02:37:08,309 --> 02:37:06,479
and um and i channeled delphi and that's

3879
02:37:10,230 --> 02:37:08,319
who got me on the phone tonight she came

3880
02:37:12,150 --> 02:37:10,240
in earlier and i'm i'm grateful i have

3881
02:37:14,630 --> 02:37:12,160
my own adult voice because

3882
02:37:16,469 --> 02:37:14,640
usually i have a i have a traumatic

3883
02:37:17,990 --> 02:37:16,479
brain injury and usually i sound like a

3884
02:37:20,309 --> 02:37:18,000
kid when i talk

3885
02:37:22,230 --> 02:37:20,319
so this is a blessing for me right now

3886
02:37:25,270 --> 02:37:22,240
now you sound like an adult to me

3887
02:37:30,710 --> 02:37:28,389
um h i have an answer

3888
02:37:31,990 --> 02:37:30,720
yeah uh real quick uh what's what's your

3889
02:37:33,670 --> 02:37:32,000
answer i've got i want to get

3890
02:37:35,030 --> 02:37:33,680
everybody else in before the top of the

3891
02:37:36,790 --> 02:37:35,040
event it's too

3892
02:37:38,389 --> 02:37:36,800
i just want to put it out there as an

3893
02:37:39,190 --> 02:37:38,399
offer to explain it to you because i

3894
02:37:42,630 --> 02:37:39,200
think it's just

3895
02:37:45,670 --> 02:37:42,640
too difficult to explain over the radio

3896
02:37:48,230 --> 02:37:45,680
but basically one one hint is that

3897
02:37:49,670 --> 02:37:48,240
how you make a t or how you make an h is

3898
02:37:53,349 --> 02:37:49,680
you take a t

3899
02:37:54,630 --> 02:37:53,359
a capital t and you turn it to 45

3900
02:37:56,150 --> 02:37:54,640
degrees

3901
02:37:57,910 --> 02:37:56,160
uh to where it's on its side and then

3902
02:37:58,870 --> 02:37:57,920
you stick a mirror in the middle of the

3903
02:38:02,389 --> 02:37:58,880
t and then you have an

3904
02:38:03,270 --> 02:38:02,399
h and that's a hint as to why it's the

3905
02:38:05,429 --> 02:38:03,280
letter h

3906
02:38:07,429 --> 02:38:05,439
have a great weekend sophia thank you

3907
02:38:09,429 --> 02:38:07,439
for the following many blessings

3908
02:38:10,790 --> 02:38:09,439
take care we'll see you monday fade to

3909
02:38:12,790 --> 02:38:10,800
black oh

3910
02:38:15,349 --> 02:38:12,800
fade to black i'll talk to you thank you

3911
02:38:19,510 --> 02:38:15,359
so much sophia yeah her her pictures

3912
02:38:22,070 --> 02:38:19,520
uh uh are amazing all right let me uh

3913
02:38:23,429 --> 02:38:22,080
i'm gonna get i i promise i'm gonna get

3914
02:38:26,950 --> 02:38:23,439
everybody in

3915
02:38:29,030 --> 02:38:26,960
here we go are you ready let's see

3916
02:38:30,710 --> 02:38:29,040
hi you're live uh uh you got to turn me

3917
02:38:33,670 --> 02:38:30,720
down to the background

3918
02:38:35,110 --> 02:38:33,680
yep sorry about that hey jimmy hi who's

3919
02:38:37,190 --> 02:38:35,120
this this is bob

3920
02:38:39,429 --> 02:38:37,200
this is bob levy hi bob how are you

3921
02:38:42,150 --> 02:38:39,439
today

3922
02:38:43,429 --> 02:38:42,160
pretty good i love your show man i'm

3923
02:38:46,550 --> 02:38:43,439
kind of a new listener

3924
02:38:50,070 --> 02:38:46,560
uh i got here through richard dolan

3925
02:38:52,230 --> 02:38:50,080
right listening to him and uh anyway

3926
02:38:54,150 --> 02:38:52,240
love your show really sorry about your

3927
02:38:54,469 --> 02:38:54,160
father yeah thank you for that man thank

3928
02:38:57,910 --> 02:38:54,479
you

3929
02:39:00,870 --> 02:38:57,920
bob well i

3930
02:39:01,429 --> 02:39:00,880
i didn't want to rehash it but uh the

3931
02:39:05,190 --> 02:39:01,439
lou

3932
02:39:08,309 --> 02:39:05,200
elizondo thing really ticked me off too

3933
02:39:11,349 --> 02:39:08,319
it should really it should it upset me

3934
02:39:14,230 --> 02:39:11,359
uh this guy was ready to give his

3935
02:39:15,190 --> 02:39:14,240
life for us no matter what anyone says

3936
02:39:19,510 --> 02:39:15,200
about him i mean

3937
02:39:21,349 --> 02:39:19,520
my gut feeling the guy's a stand-up guy

3938
02:39:24,870 --> 02:39:21,359
and then he was trying to do something

3939
02:39:26,309 --> 02:39:24,880
for the ufo community because he saw

3940
02:39:29,990 --> 02:39:26,319
something that

3941
02:39:31,990 --> 02:39:30,000
uh he felt was dangerous to us

3942
02:39:33,429 --> 02:39:32,000
and we don't know and we had we we have

3943
02:39:35,349 --> 02:39:33,439
the right to know

3944
02:39:37,110 --> 02:39:35,359
because we're just sitting here like

3945
02:39:39,349 --> 02:39:37,120
blindfolded

3946
02:39:41,750 --> 02:39:39,359
we don't have the facts but what if we

3947
02:39:42,870 --> 02:39:41,760
have to protect our own self if we even

3948
02:39:46,309 --> 02:39:42,880
could

3949
02:39:49,190 --> 02:39:46,319
god only knows that you know and and so

3950
02:39:49,670 --> 02:39:49,200
looking at it from that vantage point it

3951
02:39:54,710 --> 02:39:49,680
really

3952
02:39:57,910 --> 02:39:54,720
gonna go after this guy

3953
02:40:00,070 --> 02:39:57,920
i do but i agree with you yeah

3954
02:40:01,750 --> 02:40:00,080
i think he's got a backup i think he's

3955
02:40:03,990 --> 02:40:01,760
got backups

3956
02:40:05,270 --> 02:40:04,000
but we all do we all take stuff home

3957
02:40:08,389 --> 02:40:05,280
from work

3958
02:40:11,349 --> 02:40:08,399
right we all do it right we all do

3959
02:40:14,309 --> 02:40:11,359
so you know he's he's got some stuff and

3960
02:40:18,150 --> 02:40:14,319
and if he's got to he's going to

3961
02:40:19,110 --> 02:40:18,160
uh uh present it uh maybe he won't have

3962
02:40:22,309 --> 02:40:19,120
to

3963
02:40:25,349 --> 02:40:22,319
um he's got uh danny sheehan

3964
02:40:25,750 --> 02:40:25,359
uh on his side yep and i have i've said

3965
02:40:34,870 --> 02:40:25,760
this

3966
02:40:37,110 --> 02:40:34,880
uh danny sheehan is is who i would call

3967
02:40:38,550 --> 02:40:37,120
in and i've heard you say that oh i've

3968
02:40:41,910 --> 02:40:38,560
called i've called i've had

3969
02:40:45,590 --> 02:40:41,920
i've had some issues right and uh

3970
02:40:49,030 --> 02:40:45,600
uh pick up the phone man i called danny

3971
02:40:49,590 --> 02:40:49,040
and uh and and i re he said to me one

3972
02:40:54,150 --> 02:40:49,600
time

3973
02:40:55,429 --> 02:40:54,160
said he said jimmy if you ever need

3974
02:40:57,750 --> 02:40:55,439
anything

3975
02:40:58,710 --> 02:40:57,760
call i said don't say it unless you mean

3976
02:41:00,630 --> 02:40:58,720
it

3977
02:41:02,389 --> 02:41:00,640
because i'm gonna need that i'm gonna

3978
02:41:05,750 --> 02:41:02,399
need to make that call someday

3979
02:41:08,469 --> 02:41:05,760
and i have had to call her and uh yeah

3980
02:41:09,670 --> 02:41:08,479
so absolutely look what happened danny

3981
02:41:12,790 --> 02:41:09,680
gets involved

3982
02:41:14,630 --> 02:41:12,800
right look what happens ig i'm i'm

3983
02:41:17,269 --> 02:41:14,640
investigating and i want to hear from

3984
02:41:18,389 --> 02:41:17,279
every branch you know and i want to know

3985
02:41:21,990 --> 02:41:18,399
what you guys are doing

3986
02:41:22,630 --> 02:41:22,000
so uh and you know lou is lou is a

3987
02:41:25,990 --> 02:41:22,640
warrior

3988
02:41:27,990 --> 02:41:26,000
i mean he's a he's a military

3989
02:41:29,110 --> 02:41:28,000
serious guy he's been over there he did

3990
02:41:31,750 --> 02:41:29,120
his thing

3991
02:41:32,630 --> 02:41:31,760
and this cat is not going to sit back

3992
02:41:39,030 --> 02:41:32,640
like

3993
02:41:40,870 --> 02:41:39,040
i mean he's he knows what to do

3994
02:41:42,870 --> 02:41:40,880
yeah and he's going to do it i agree

3995
02:41:44,950 --> 02:41:42,880
with you i mean i think you put it all

3996
02:41:46,550 --> 02:41:44,960
i think you put it all on the line i

3997
02:41:48,950 --> 02:41:46,560
agree with you bob i really do

3998
02:41:49,670 --> 02:41:48,960
thank you for the phone oh you are i'm a

3999
02:41:52,870 --> 02:41:49,680
drummer too

4000
02:41:54,710 --> 02:41:52,880
what kind of drum set do you have oh i

4001
02:41:55,830 --> 02:41:54,720
got them all my old man was one of the

4002
02:41:58,389 --> 02:41:55,840
legendary

4003
02:42:00,790 --> 02:41:58,399
jazz drummers stan levy look him up okay

4004
02:42:02,790 --> 02:42:00,800
he played with charlie parker and dizzy

4005
02:42:04,790 --> 02:42:02,800
and i'm on the tune uh when the [\h__\h]

4006
02:42:07,830 --> 02:42:04,800
goes down by cypress hill

4007
02:42:11,190 --> 02:42:07,840
that's me on the drums no no it's not

4008
02:42:14,309 --> 02:42:11,200
40 really yeah 44 look it up over

4009
02:42:17,269 --> 02:42:14,319
40 years ago i'm 73 now yeah i did it

4010
02:42:19,590 --> 02:42:17,279
with the outlaw blues it was originally

4011
02:42:21,429 --> 02:42:19,600
called uh deep gully and that was just

4012
02:42:24,230 --> 02:42:21,439
used in the uh

4013
02:42:25,510 --> 02:42:24,240
judas and the black messiah so i'm with

4014
02:42:27,910 --> 02:42:25,520
you on the music man i

4015
02:42:28,550 --> 02:42:27,920
i love your intro i i need you to spell

4016
02:42:31,590 --> 02:42:28,560
out which

4017
02:42:33,190 --> 02:42:31,600
tune you wrote because the stuff you're

4018
02:42:35,670 --> 02:42:33,200
playing in the intro is just

4019
02:42:36,469 --> 02:42:35,680
really great ah thank you for that bob

4020
02:42:38,070 --> 02:42:36,479
thank you for that

4021
02:42:40,870 --> 02:42:38,080
yeah and i love i love first time

4022
02:42:43,990 --> 02:42:40,880
callers here don't be a stranger

4023
02:42:46,950 --> 02:42:44,000
okay buddy thank you so much bob

4024
02:42:47,830 --> 02:42:46,960
all right thank you so much uh all of

4025
02:42:51,990 --> 02:42:47,840
his points

4026
02:42:55,910 --> 02:42:52,000
are on pitch when it comes to lou

4027
02:42:59,590 --> 02:42:55,920
um look look all of my uh

4028
02:43:02,230 --> 02:42:59,600
uh uh positive negative

4029
02:43:03,349 --> 02:43:02,240
whatever about lou and things i want

4030
02:43:07,110 --> 02:43:03,359
answers

4031
02:43:10,070 --> 02:43:07,120
and when it uh when it uh

4032
02:43:10,389 --> 02:43:10,080
originally when when the pentagon comes

4033
02:43:13,670 --> 02:43:10,399
out

4034
02:43:16,550 --> 02:43:13,680
and says you know lou had nothing to do

4035
02:43:18,389 --> 02:43:16,560
with this right with atip you have to

4036
02:43:24,389 --> 02:43:18,399
understand something

4037
02:43:28,790 --> 02:43:24,399
the uap supporters out there the fanboys

4038
02:43:30,469 --> 02:43:28,800
are all in when the pentagon says well

4039
02:43:31,830 --> 02:43:30,479
you know those three videos yeah they're

4040
02:43:34,070 --> 02:43:31,840
unidentified those are

4041
02:43:35,510 --> 02:43:34,080
those are uaps right oh they're happy

4042
02:43:36,550 --> 02:43:35,520
with that the pentagon's telling the

4043
02:43:39,590 --> 02:43:36,560
truth

4044
02:43:40,309 --> 02:43:39,600
and then uh susan gal comes out and says

4045
02:43:41,990 --> 02:43:40,319
but

4046
02:43:43,990 --> 02:43:42,000
uh you know lou didn't have anything to

4047
02:43:44,790 --> 02:43:44,000
do with atip he had no assigned duties

4048
02:43:51,590 --> 02:43:44,800
at

4049
02:43:54,469 --> 02:43:51,600
the pentagon when susan gal says those

4050
02:43:57,670 --> 02:43:54,479
are uaps in the videos

4051
02:43:59,349 --> 02:43:57,680
that's true but then when susan gao says

4052
02:44:01,030 --> 02:43:59,359
something else that nobody agrees with

4053
02:44:04,150 --> 02:44:01,040
then that's a lie

4054
02:44:09,030 --> 02:44:04,160
well or is it the opposite

4055
02:44:12,230 --> 02:44:09,040
right is what's there you know

4056
02:44:12,550 --> 02:44:12,240
i don't know you know and you can't have

4057
02:44:17,510 --> 02:44:12,560
it

4058
02:44:21,190 --> 02:44:17,520
both ways so i

4059
02:44:22,469 --> 02:44:21,200
i i try to stay on one side right

4060
02:44:24,950 --> 02:44:22,479
either everything coming out of the

4061
02:44:27,670 --> 02:44:24,960
pentagon is bs

4062
02:44:28,630 --> 02:44:27,680
right so they're not telling the truth

4063
02:44:30,070 --> 02:44:28,640
about lou

4064
02:44:31,910 --> 02:44:30,080
but they're also not telling the truth

4065
02:44:34,550 --> 02:44:31,920
about the uaps and they're not telling

4066
02:44:37,670 --> 02:44:34,560
the truth about those three videos

4067
02:44:41,349 --> 02:44:37,680
right but we you can't have or is it

4068
02:44:43,429 --> 02:44:41,359
like selective lying all the time

4069
02:44:45,030 --> 02:44:43,439
with with the pentagon and susan gow i

4070
02:44:46,870 --> 02:44:45,040
mean how

4071
02:44:49,590 --> 02:44:46,880
you got to make up your mind here you

4072
02:44:52,150 --> 02:44:49,600
can't have cognitive dissonance

4073
02:44:54,070 --> 02:44:52,160
you can't have it you can't have it

4074
02:44:57,990 --> 02:44:54,080
where you just selectively

4075
02:45:01,990 --> 02:44:58,000
want to believe what only agrees with

4076
02:45:06,230 --> 02:45:02,000
your mind right and anything else

4077
02:45:09,349 --> 02:45:06,240
that goes against your belief system

4078
02:45:10,870 --> 02:45:09,359
you're not going to listen to that's a

4079
02:45:13,510 --> 02:45:10,880
dangerous zone to go into

4080
02:45:14,630 --> 02:45:13,520
that is that is so me i just collect it

4081
02:45:19,190 --> 02:45:14,640
all

4082
02:45:21,349 --> 02:45:19,200
that's the way i approach it

4083
02:45:24,550 --> 02:45:21,359
let's go back to the phones hi you're

4084
02:45:27,190 --> 02:45:24,560
live on fade to black who's calling

4085
02:45:28,230 --> 02:45:27,200
hey jimmy this is kane from uh north

4086
02:45:32,389 --> 02:45:28,240
carolina how are you

4087
02:45:35,950 --> 02:45:32,399
i'm doing good uh did you say kevin

4088
02:45:39,590 --> 02:45:35,960
king speller

4089
02:45:41,110 --> 02:45:39,600
k-a-n-e oh kane

4090
02:45:42,710 --> 02:45:41,120
you could have just said you could have

4091
02:45:45,910 --> 02:45:42,720
just said this is kane from

4092
02:45:47,000 --> 02:45:45,920
uh that's all you had to say but that is

4093
02:45:48,870 --> 02:45:47,010
what you said

4094
02:45:52,150 --> 02:45:48,880
[Laughter]

4095
02:45:55,190 --> 02:45:52,160
what's on your mind kane uh just

4096
02:45:59,030 --> 02:45:55,200
uh a lot of stuff you mentioned uh an

4097
02:46:02,790 --> 02:45:59,040
alien body yeah i posted here i

4098
02:46:06,710 --> 02:46:04,550
yeah i don't know if you're aware you

4099
02:46:08,630 --> 02:46:06,720
probably are but uh

4100
02:46:11,910 --> 02:46:08,640
this guy named steven greer he's been on

4101
02:46:18,230 --> 02:46:15,030
he has this um film coming out

4102
02:46:20,550 --> 02:46:18,240
called i think it's an expose that

4103
02:46:22,830 --> 02:46:20,560
it's uh an alien hoax and expose or

4104
02:46:25,510 --> 02:46:22,840
whatever it's called

4105
02:46:26,870 --> 02:46:25,520
okay and i don't know if you remember he

4106
02:46:30,469 --> 02:46:26,880
said that he had

4107
02:46:31,110 --> 02:46:30,479
uh photographs from the 1920s yeah he he

4108
02:46:35,030 --> 02:46:31,120
sent us

4109
02:46:38,309 --> 02:46:35,040
them yeah

4110
02:46:40,630 --> 02:46:38,319
yeah i don't know if

4111
02:46:42,309 --> 02:46:40,640
you say you've seen them yes i have yeah

4112
02:46:46,070 --> 02:46:42,319
yeah we've all seen them

4113
02:46:48,950 --> 02:46:46,080
i mean this audience yes yes

4114
02:46:51,190 --> 02:46:48,960
do they look real to you uh stephen

4115
02:46:53,190 --> 02:46:51,200
greer well steven greer's images are

4116
02:46:54,550 --> 02:46:53,200
it's a real photograph it's a photograph

4117
02:46:57,110 --> 02:46:54,560
of a photograph it's a

4118
02:46:57,830 --> 02:46:57,120
it it's certainly real there's some kind

4119
02:47:01,349 --> 02:46:57,840
of body

4120
02:47:03,990 --> 02:47:01,359
on the table um

4121
02:47:06,150 --> 02:47:04,000
uh there are some other photographs that

4122
02:47:09,269 --> 02:47:06,160
have surfaced since then

4123
02:47:11,750 --> 02:47:09,279
um that show the same group of people

4124
02:47:12,710 --> 02:47:11,760
with uh different bodies and different

4125
02:47:16,070 --> 02:47:12,720
animals

4126
02:47:18,790 --> 02:47:16,080
uh doing different things so um

4127
02:47:19,429 --> 02:47:18,800
i don't know of what is on the table and

4128
02:47:21,349 --> 02:47:19,439
neither does

4129
02:47:23,190 --> 02:47:21,359
uh steven greer you know you don't know

4130
02:47:25,030 --> 02:47:23,200
if that's an alien body but it

4131
02:47:27,670 --> 02:47:25,040
it is definitely interesting then i was

4132
02:47:31,030 --> 02:47:27,680
sent um

4133
02:47:34,150 --> 02:47:31,040
a couple of photographs what looks like

4134
02:47:34,950 --> 02:47:34,160
uh two of or three of the guys that are

4135
02:47:36,950 --> 02:47:34,960
in the same

4136
02:47:38,230 --> 02:47:36,960
group it looks like it's an older

4137
02:47:41,510 --> 02:47:38,240
picture i'm going to say

4138
02:47:42,230 --> 02:47:41,520
it looks around 1900 or so but they're

4139
02:47:44,870 --> 02:47:42,240
standing

4140
02:47:46,469 --> 02:47:44,880
with uh what looks like a giant

4141
02:47:49,349 --> 02:47:46,479
thunderbird

4142
02:47:50,230 --> 02:47:49,359
and and i i thought that that was

4143
02:47:53,429 --> 02:47:50,240
interesting

4144
02:47:55,190 --> 02:47:53,439
and so i don't know i i don't know i

4145
02:47:57,830 --> 02:47:55,200
i i don't know i don't know i i'm

4146
02:47:59,910 --> 02:47:57,840
speculating when i would suggest that

4147
02:48:01,110 --> 02:47:59,920
maybe these guys were like taxidermists

4148
02:48:03,990 --> 02:48:01,120
and they're

4149
02:48:05,269 --> 02:48:04,000
you know uh uh sewing body parts of

4150
02:48:07,269 --> 02:48:05,279
animals together and

4151
02:48:08,469 --> 02:48:07,279
and taking photographs because it was

4152
02:48:11,429 --> 02:48:08,479
fun to do

4153
02:48:12,309 --> 02:48:11,439
you know what i mean like pterodactyl oh

4154
02:48:15,670 --> 02:48:12,319
here is a

4155
02:48:18,150 --> 02:48:15,680
a dinosaur here's a giant bird with

4156
02:48:19,990 --> 02:48:18,160
you know what here's a pig with wings

4157
02:48:21,750 --> 02:48:20,000
you know so i don't know

4158
02:48:23,429 --> 02:48:21,760
uh but i was sent a bunch of photographs

4159
02:48:25,910 --> 02:48:23,439
and it looked like

4160
02:48:27,429 --> 02:48:25,920
uh like three of these guys were wearing

4161
02:48:29,110 --> 02:48:27,439
the same clothes

4162
02:48:30,710 --> 02:48:29,120
and were the same guys in these pictures

4163
02:48:33,750 --> 02:48:30,720
so i don't know i don't know

4164
02:48:35,429 --> 02:48:33,760
now this other image uh from the alien

4165
02:48:37,990 --> 02:48:35,439
autopsy film

4166
02:48:39,110 --> 02:48:38,000
this is uh this is pretty interesting

4167
02:48:43,269 --> 02:48:39,120
and

4168
02:48:45,510 --> 02:48:43,279
um uh somebody's gonna own this besides

4169
02:48:46,389 --> 02:48:45,520
uh ray santilli very soon when this

4170
02:48:49,349 --> 02:48:46,399
thing

4171
02:48:51,830 --> 02:48:49,359
uh finishes its auction in a couple of

4172
02:48:54,870 --> 02:48:51,840
days and then when it when it does

4173
02:48:56,870 --> 02:48:54,880
um hopefully we'll know more and we can

4174
02:48:59,110 --> 02:48:56,880
have some other analysis done so we'll

4175
02:49:02,150 --> 02:48:59,120
see kane

4176
02:49:03,190 --> 02:49:02,160
i hope so i hope so have a great night

4177
02:49:05,349 --> 02:49:03,200
and enjoy

4178
02:49:07,349 --> 02:49:05,359
the rest of your weekend thank you so

4179
02:49:09,349 --> 02:49:07,359
much my friend

4180
02:49:10,790 --> 02:49:09,359
you too no problem right on that's a

4181
02:49:14,150 --> 02:49:10,800
good phone call right there

4182
02:49:16,150 --> 02:49:14,160
um what is going on with greer

4183
02:49:17,910 --> 02:49:16,160
um now he just said now i don't i don't

4184
02:49:19,349 --> 02:49:17,920
know this i haven't heard this

4185
02:49:22,790 --> 02:49:19,359
officially

4186
02:49:25,830 --> 02:49:22,800
but uh it's gonna be the uh

4187
02:49:26,469 --> 02:49:25,840
did it say alien hoax i think that's

4188
02:49:27,990 --> 02:49:26,479
what he said

4189
02:49:30,309 --> 02:49:28,000
that's pretty interesting i don't know i

4190
02:49:31,030 --> 02:49:30,319
haven't heard anything about the title

4191
02:49:33,190 --> 02:49:31,040
of uh

4192
02:49:34,950 --> 02:49:33,200
of this new film hi you're live on fade

4193
02:49:36,870 --> 02:49:34,960
to black who's calling

4194
02:49:39,429 --> 02:49:36,880
hey it's matt from winnipeg how are you

4195
02:49:40,950 --> 02:49:39,439
hey matt from winnipeg how are you man

4196
02:49:42,630 --> 02:49:40,960
not bad it's been a while since i called

4197
02:49:44,469 --> 02:49:42,640
in yeah right on right on how are you

4198
02:49:47,750 --> 02:49:44,479
doing

4199
02:49:50,630 --> 02:49:47,760
uh a little bit of a mental mess

4200
02:49:51,750 --> 02:49:50,640
but i'm hanging in there university has

4201
02:49:54,469 --> 02:49:51,760
been pretty rough with

4202
02:49:55,830 --> 02:49:54,479
all the uh all the crazy politics going

4203
02:49:59,110 --> 02:49:55,840
on up north you know what i mean

4204
02:50:01,030 --> 02:49:59,120
yeah sure sure um well so what's on your

4205
02:50:02,790 --> 02:50:01,040
mind tonight

4206
02:50:05,030 --> 02:50:02,800
uh well i just first of all i had a

4207
02:50:06,630 --> 02:50:05,040
solution for you because i know that uh

4208
02:50:08,550 --> 02:50:06,640
you don't like to use the words go back

4209
02:50:10,389 --> 02:50:08,560
lee tapi anymore because of offending

4210
02:50:13,030 --> 02:50:10,399
the armenian community

4211
02:50:15,030 --> 02:50:13,040
so i've i figured uh why don't you uh

4212
02:50:15,590 --> 02:50:15,040
just call it uh by what its original

4213
02:50:19,910 --> 02:50:15,600
name is

4214
02:50:22,469 --> 02:50:19,920
porthostata uh sure

4215
02:50:23,269 --> 02:50:22,479
you know you could then you don't have

4216
02:50:28,070 --> 02:50:23,279
to then you

4217
02:50:35,990 --> 02:50:31,510
and hold on i'm actually doing a tweet

4218
02:50:39,030 --> 02:50:36,000
it's also on my

4219
02:50:40,070 --> 02:50:39,040
facebook page somebody's asking about

4220
02:50:43,110 --> 02:50:40,080
the uh

4221
02:50:44,950 --> 02:50:43,120
the autopsy photographs so oh okay

4222
02:50:46,389 --> 02:50:44,960
okay trying to get that in before the

4223
02:50:47,910 --> 02:50:46,399
end of the show um

4224
02:50:50,469 --> 02:50:47,920
okay so what else is on your mind what's

4225
02:50:51,349 --> 02:50:50,479
going on okay uh one of the other things

4226
02:50:54,309 --> 02:50:51,359
too uh

4227
02:50:55,590 --> 02:50:54,319
the uh pineal gland you know or the

4228
02:50:57,349 --> 02:50:55,600
everybody else keeps talking about

4229
02:50:59,990 --> 02:50:57,359
it also behaves like a like a radio

4230
02:51:02,550 --> 02:51:00,000
oscillator an inductor capacitor

4231
02:51:04,150 --> 02:51:02,560
sure kind of like uh yeah kind of like

4232
02:51:07,510 --> 02:51:04,160
it's almost like it behaves like uh

4233
02:51:09,670 --> 02:51:07,520
like a timer for a programmable ic

4234
02:51:10,790 --> 02:51:09,680
but anyway the uh the what i want to

4235
02:51:12,550 --> 02:51:10,800
talk to you about is

4236
02:51:13,910 --> 02:51:12,560
i don't hear too many people talking

4237
02:51:15,670 --> 02:51:13,920
about the jersey

4238
02:51:17,750 --> 02:51:15,680
ufo case you know you know what happens

4239
02:51:18,950 --> 02:51:17,760
there in italy i mean moussan sure

4240
02:51:21,190 --> 02:51:18,960
talked a lot about that

4241
02:51:22,630 --> 02:51:21,200
yeah takes a lot of beating yeah that

4242
02:51:26,630 --> 02:51:22,640
was an interesting case

4243
02:51:27,590 --> 02:51:26,640
uh for sure um there's a lot about that

4244
02:51:30,950 --> 02:51:27,600
case

4245
02:51:31,990 --> 02:51:30,960
uh that that is uh really really cool

4246
02:51:34,790 --> 02:51:32,000
and very interesting but

4247
02:51:36,469 --> 02:51:34,800
i agree um look if it doesn't happen in

4248
02:51:37,269 --> 02:51:36,479
the united states nobody wants to hear

4249
02:51:41,269 --> 02:51:37,279
about it and

4250
02:51:43,110 --> 02:51:41,279
unless it's randallshim so

4251
02:51:44,309 --> 02:51:43,120
there's the friendship the friendship

4252
02:51:47,750 --> 02:51:44,319
case uh

4253
02:51:51,429 --> 02:51:47,760
in in italy mind-blowing

4254
02:51:51,910 --> 02:51:51,439
mind-blowing yes so uh and there there's

4255
02:51:55,030 --> 02:51:51,920
more

4256
02:51:57,670 --> 02:51:55,040
in italy uh too as well um

4257
02:51:59,110 --> 02:51:57,680
there's been a couple of uh uh army

4258
02:52:01,110 --> 02:51:59,120
crash retrievals

4259
02:52:02,389 --> 02:52:01,120
in germany in recent history you know in

4260
02:52:06,070 --> 02:52:02,399
the 70s

4261
02:52:06,870 --> 02:52:06,080
uh by by the us army nobody talks about

4262
02:52:10,550 --> 02:52:06,880
those

4263
02:52:12,710 --> 02:52:10,560
you know it so yeah i i agree i hear you

4264
02:52:14,150 --> 02:52:12,720
no one's talked about the uh the uh

4265
02:52:18,389 --> 02:52:14,160
crash in uh

4266
02:52:21,269 --> 02:52:18,399
uh in manitoba here uh in 2014

4267
02:52:22,309 --> 02:52:21,279
when uh in february when it hit uh uh

4268
02:52:25,750 --> 02:52:22,319
what he called uh

4269
02:52:27,590 --> 02:52:25,760
jack jack head lake winnipeg yep yep yep

4270
02:52:29,190 --> 02:52:27,600
just landed right into the ground it was

4271
02:52:31,910 --> 02:52:29,200
all over the news and it just

4272
02:52:32,469 --> 02:52:31,920
disappeared they deployed the ppcli yeah

4273
02:52:36,429 --> 02:52:32,479
gone

4274
02:52:40,469 --> 02:52:36,439
yeah yeah yeah yep yep yep witnessed by

4275
02:52:43,030 --> 02:52:40,479
everybody uh-huh just gone and i bet

4276
02:52:45,590 --> 02:52:43,040
bet you i know where that went to too

4277
02:52:48,230 --> 02:52:45,600
probably to ottawa before it hit uh

4278
02:52:49,269 --> 02:52:48,240
before it gets into the u.s it could be

4279
02:52:50,870 --> 02:52:49,279
and that's my guess

4280
02:52:52,790 --> 02:52:50,880
well i i used to be in the army here in

4281
02:52:54,710 --> 02:52:52,800
the canadian forest today so like i

4282
02:52:57,429 --> 02:52:54,720
actually asked about that one time many

4283
02:52:59,349 --> 02:52:57,439
many years ago they asked me um

4284
02:53:01,110 --> 02:52:59,359
my old warrant and he asked me well what

4285
02:53:01,429 --> 02:53:01,120
happens like when you were in here like

4286
02:53:05,510 --> 02:53:01,439
what

4287
02:53:07,030 --> 02:53:05,520
a satellite retrieval

4288
02:53:08,630 --> 02:53:07,040
and they told me what you told me is

4289
02:53:09,349 --> 02:53:08,640
okay what we would do is they would run

4290
02:53:12,469 --> 02:53:09,359
out there

4291
02:53:13,670 --> 02:53:12,479
um and they would almost like have a

4292
02:53:15,830 --> 02:53:13,680
like uh what do you call it like hot

4293
02:53:17,030 --> 02:53:15,840
potato they would pass it down from

4294
02:53:18,469 --> 02:53:17,040
person to person to person

4295
02:53:20,309 --> 02:53:18,479
really really quick and then get out of

4296
02:53:22,710 --> 02:53:20,319
there really really really quick but no

4297
02:53:26,790 --> 02:53:22,720
one would ever know what happens to it

4298
02:53:29,110 --> 02:53:26,800
and uh but uh he said yeah you know

4299
02:53:30,870 --> 02:53:29,120
these things required certain security

4300
02:53:32,230 --> 02:53:30,880
clearances way up at the top right there

4301
02:53:33,510 --> 02:53:32,240
in order for us to know where it goes

4302
02:53:35,269 --> 02:53:33,520
all you have to do is you'd be the

4303
02:53:37,510 --> 02:53:35,279
grunts to go out there and get it

4304
02:53:38,950 --> 02:53:37,520
and then i would ask them well okay well

4305
02:53:40,710 --> 02:53:38,960
if you had things like for instance

4306
02:53:42,630 --> 02:53:40,720
soviet satellites coming down which were

4307
02:53:43,349 --> 02:53:42,640
powered like on nuclear materials and

4308
02:53:45,429 --> 02:53:43,359
things

4309
02:53:46,389 --> 02:53:45,439
you know let's just say if it was a ufo

4310
02:53:49,110 --> 02:53:46,399
craft how do you

4311
02:53:50,550 --> 02:53:49,120
know that you don't suffer any damages

4312
02:53:53,269 --> 02:53:50,560
from it if you don't have it

4313
02:53:54,309 --> 02:53:53,279
you don't you don't you don't and this

4314
02:53:57,110 --> 02:53:54,319
is uh

4315
02:53:57,510 --> 02:53:57,120
one of the biggest uh when when i think

4316
02:54:00,950 --> 02:53:57,520
about

4317
02:54:04,230 --> 02:54:00,960
any of this stuff when you

4318
02:54:06,070 --> 02:54:04,240
have how if you're if you're et

4319
02:54:07,750 --> 02:54:06,080
and you come down to earth and you grab

4320
02:54:09,590 --> 02:54:07,760
a car

4321
02:54:11,269 --> 02:54:09,600
and you take it back to how do you know

4322
02:54:13,190 --> 02:54:11,279
what gas is

4323
02:54:14,389 --> 02:54:13,200
how do you know what gasoline is you

4324
02:54:18,150 --> 02:54:14,399
don't and

4325
02:54:21,349 --> 02:54:18,160
so a craft crashes here or whatever and

4326
02:54:21,990 --> 02:54:21,359
and it's it's being run on some kind of

4327
02:54:24,070 --> 02:54:22,000
fuel

4328
02:54:25,910 --> 02:54:24,080
whatever it is could be nuclear could be

4329
02:54:30,150 --> 02:54:25,920
radioactive could be some

4330
02:54:33,190 --> 02:54:30,160
crazy gas from zeta reticuli that

4331
02:54:34,150 --> 02:54:33,200
is only there you know but the point

4332
02:54:37,269 --> 02:54:34,160
being

4333
02:54:37,910 --> 02:54:37,279
how do you know what it is how do you

4334
02:54:40,950 --> 02:54:37,920
know

4335
02:54:43,190 --> 02:54:40,960
how that runs you don't you need an

4336
02:54:45,590 --> 02:54:43,200
instruction manual or you need somebody

4337
02:54:48,870 --> 02:54:45,600
to tell you

4338
02:54:51,510 --> 02:54:48,880
that's it if if if um

4339
02:54:52,070 --> 02:54:51,520
uh i'll give you another example and

4340
02:54:55,269 --> 02:54:52,080
this is

4341
02:54:59,429 --> 02:54:55,279
uh a perfect example uh

4342
02:55:00,830 --> 02:54:59,439
uh a cd player doesn't have a cd in it

4343
02:55:04,790 --> 02:55:00,840
but a cd

4344
02:55:07,750 --> 02:55:04,800
player and a thousand years from now

4345
02:55:10,070 --> 02:55:07,760
archaeological dig and they pull a cd

4346
02:55:13,349 --> 02:55:10,080
player out of the ground

4347
02:55:14,550 --> 02:55:13,359
how do they know what that is how do

4348
02:55:18,790 --> 02:55:14,560
they know what goes

4349
02:55:22,070 --> 02:55:18,800
in it how do you even have the data

4350
02:55:23,990 --> 02:55:22,080
to understand what would go on a disk

4351
02:55:26,550 --> 02:55:24,000
even if you figure that part out

4352
02:55:28,790 --> 02:55:26,560
to make that work you wouldn't you need

4353
02:55:29,990 --> 02:55:28,800
an instruction manual or somebody to

4354
02:55:34,389 --> 02:55:30,000
tell you about it

4355
02:55:38,389 --> 02:55:34,399
or forget that what about

4356
02:55:40,710 --> 02:55:38,399
a cd a thousand years from now

4357
02:55:43,110 --> 02:55:40,720
how how do you even you would have to

4358
02:55:45,590 --> 02:55:43,120
have a cd player to get the data off of

4359
02:55:47,830 --> 02:55:45,600
it that runs at the same

4360
02:55:49,030 --> 02:55:47,840
frequency it's got to run on the same

4361
02:55:51,349 --> 02:55:49,040
frequency

4362
02:55:52,950 --> 02:55:51,359
it's got you know it's got a space you

4363
02:55:55,190 --> 02:55:52,960
wouldn't know how to pull that data off

4364
02:55:56,870 --> 02:55:55,200
you wouldn't you wouldn't and what if

4365
02:55:58,230 --> 02:55:56,880
it's not even data what if it's van

4366
02:56:00,309 --> 02:55:58,240
halen too

4367
02:56:01,349 --> 02:56:00,319
you would never know that there's music

4368
02:56:04,150 --> 02:56:01,359
on there

4369
02:56:06,469 --> 02:56:04,160
you wouldn't if there was a beer coaster

4370
02:56:08,790 --> 02:56:06,479
there you go

4371
02:56:09,670 --> 02:56:08,800
i gotta go i gotta go i gotta go in five

4372
02:56:12,550 --> 02:56:09,680
seconds matt

4373
02:56:13,910 --> 02:56:12,560
behave and be well yeah you too bye-bye

4374
02:56:15,750 --> 02:56:13,920
have a great night

4375
02:56:17,030 --> 02:56:15,760
i've gotta go i gotta go i gotta get

4376
02:56:19,269 --> 02:56:17,040
straight to it see i'm sitting here

4377
02:56:22,790 --> 02:56:19,279
having a wonderful conversation and

4378
02:56:23,670 --> 02:56:22,800
and i just spaced it and i didn't quite

4379
02:56:26,950 --> 02:56:23,680
get to it

4380
02:56:29,750 --> 02:56:26,960
and there you go what a great fader

4381
02:56:32,070 --> 02:56:29,760
night everybody thank you so much

4382
02:56:33,510 --> 02:56:32,080
thank you to ray santilli that was a

4383
02:56:35,429 --> 02:56:33,520
great conversation right there

4384
02:56:37,429 --> 02:56:35,439
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4385
02:56:39,190 --> 02:56:37,439
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4386
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4391
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4393
02:56:55,110 --> 02:56:53,359
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4394
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4395
02:57:00,070 --> 02:56:57,359
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4396
02:57:01,910 --> 02:57:00,080
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4397
02:57:03,269 --> 02:57:01,920
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4398
02:57:04,870 --> 02:57:03,279
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4399
02:57:06,150 --> 02:57:04,880
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4400
02:57:07,510 --> 02:57:06,160
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4401
02:57:09,110 --> 02:57:07,520
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4402
02:57:11,670 --> 02:57:09,120
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4403
02:57:12,870 --> 02:57:11,680
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4404
02:57:15,510 --> 02:57:12,880
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4405
02:57:17,269 --> 02:57:15,520
everybody go party go eat hang out with

4406
02:57:20,630 --> 02:57:17,279
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4407
02:57:22,550 --> 02:57:20,640
do your thing but we're gonna have a

4408
02:57:25,990 --> 02:57:22,560
show on monday

4409
02:57:41,030 --> 02:57:26,000
i'll see you then have a great weekend